Debt has increased $5 trillion under Pelosi

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  1. Shooter

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    How much did it increase under Bush?

    How much did it increase under Clinton?

    Under Bush St?

    Reagan?
     
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    < $5T under W, all 8 years.

    Clinton it increased, even though they paid down a lot of the public debt, because the Social Security Trust Fund was forced to by govt. debt.

    ~ $2T under Reagan.
     
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    The only reason it didn't increase more under W was he got to give the recession to Obama while the economy had just started crashing.
     
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    Obama didn't need to enter such deficit spending.
     
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    I was asking Shooter. I figured you knew. What's interesting is that it doubled under the last Bush. Neither party cares about debt when they're in the majority.
     
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    We will see just how much the American people care on Nov. 2nd.
     
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    And if they don't vote the way you think they should it means they don't care?
     
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    Irrespective of which party gets voted in, I'm jumping on that special national sales tax towards paying down the debt. Along with that, though, would necessarily include a balanced and "highly" scrutinized budget.
     
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    Doubling means nothing. It doubled under Carter, too. Doubling from $1 to $2 isn't as big a deal as it is doubling from $7T to $14T. There's about a $7T difference there.
     
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    The only way that would work is if we get a national initiative first. It's way past time for federal ballot measures.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_initiative

    But could you imagine the 50,000 page voters pamphlet that would have shown up in the mail if we had gotten to vote on the Health Care bill?
     
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    I think the initiative would have been to allow congress to pass a bill in the first place, not the bill itself.

    I'd like to see an initiative required to spend at a deficit or raise taxes. "We want to raise taxes (or borrow) for X, Y, and Z." Otherwise they live within the amount they bring in.
     
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    Going from $5T to $10T under GW Bush sure as hell was a big deal. Just like going from $10T to $14T under Obama is a big deal.
     
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    I was making a joke. I think with N.I. the health care bill would have been much more simplified.
     
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    Endorsing my idea I started talking about several years ago. Hell, I should run for office. Afterall, when ABM starts endorsing a candidate's ideas...
     
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    Bush Administration Adds $4 Trillion To National Debt

    That's over 8 years, or about $500B/year. Obama's spending at a deficit of nearly 3x that with no real end in sight. If things don't change, he'll have added $12T to the debt over a similar time frame.

    And yeah, $1T is huge, $4T is huge, $12T is huge. The $4T is a hole, the $12T is digging to china.
     
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    Would you vote Yes on Measure 75? Tell the truth!! :lol:
     
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    My great concern is that Obama & Pelosi have placed us on a track to complete insolvency. I thought for sure Obama was for a balanced budget and lowering the debt. But I was dead dog wrong.
     
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    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

    That's where I get my numbers and it shows it was $5T under Bush's watch.
     
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    Would I vote "yes" on 75? Are you kidding? My friends and fellow Americans...

    Does that answer your question?
     

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