Deepest Team from PG-SG-SF?

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  1. Romination

    Romination JBB JustBBall Member

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    Deepest in terms of number of players.

    I think it's the Minnesota Timberwolves.

    Sam/Thud
    Spree/Hoiberg
    Wally/Hassell

    6 players deep, all of them except for Hoiberg can start for any team. Maybe even Hoiberg too.
     
  2. SunshineRain

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    Easy, Dallas.

    Harris/Terry/Daniels/Howard/Finley/Stackhouse

    Good call on the wolves, good depth, but the Mavs are deeper.
     
  3. Henacy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SunshineRain:</div><div class="quote_post">Easy, Dallas.

    Harris/Terry/Daniels/Howard/Finley/Stackhouse

    Good call on the wolves, good depth, but the Mavs are deeper.</div>

    The Wolves are deeper because they have a better mix of chemistry, offense/defense, & consistency in perimeter shooting and experince.

    Why Do I say their Chemistry is better?Because itsa the same exact perimeter from last year and guys established and accepted their roles. And they seem to really gel together around playoff time. While Dallas' perimeter has 3 new addition which includes some guys who have never had to play a smaller roll on a team before. How are guys like Stackhouse and Terry going to react to not getting 15 shots a game in Dallas.

    Why Do I say they have a better mix of offense and defense? Trenton Hassell is one of the league's best perimeter stoppers. And Sprewell & Hoiberg are both good on ball defenders as well. While Josh Howard and Mike Finley are good perimeter defenders. I think Minny's trio of Hassell, Sprewell, Hioberg are a bit better & deeper defensively.

    Why do I say consistency in Perimeter Shooting? Well this one is easy, who would you take in a shooting contest a group of Wally, Hoiberg, Hudson, Cassell or Finley, Terry,Howard,Daniels. Seems pretty easy to me

    And experience is just the factor that brings it all together, the wolves have guys who have proven themselves in NBA playoffs & finals. While outside of Finley nobody on the Mavs can stay they are playoff proven(maybe Stack). There is alot of inexperience in that Dallas backcourt.

    So if you add up all the factor and ask yourself who's depth would you take in a big situations its the perimeter of the T-wolves.
     
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    What about Toronto?

    PG: Rafer Alston, Jalen Rose
    SG: Vince Carter, Morris Peterson, Jalen Rose
    SF: Vince Carter, Morris Peterson, Jalen Rose, Donyell Marshall
    Point Forward: Vince Carter, Jalen Rose
     
  5. flamehead

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    ....toronto is a joke, im a canadian,but i have to say this, been keeping it for too long.
    its looks good on paper, but the players are contantly underacheivers. any team with VC, donyell marshall, and jalen rose should get into the playoffs. but...if only it happens...
     
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    RiverspoonJones JBB Sonic Death Monkey

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    If everyone is healthy this year, they should make the playoffs comfortably.

    The Bosh/Marshall/Araujo frontcourt is good enough to break even with most Eastern teams not named Detroit, Indiana or Miami.
     
  7. SunshineRain

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">The Wolves are deeper because they have a better mix of chemistry, offense/defense, & consistency in perimeter shooting and experince.

    Why Do I say their Chemistry is better?Because itsa the same exact perimeter from last year and guys established and accepted their roles. And they seem to really gel together around playoff time. While Dallas' perimeter has 3 new addition which includes some guys who have never had to play a smaller roll on a team before. How are guys like Stackhouse and Terry going to react to not getting 15 shots a game in Dallas.

    Why Do I say they have a better mix of offense and defense? Trenton Hassell is one of the league's best perimeter stoppers. And Sprewell & Hoiberg are both good on ball defenders as well. While Josh Howard and Mike Finley are good perimeter defenders. I think Minny's trio of Hassell, Sprewell, Hioberg are a bit better & deeper defensively.

    Why do I say consistency in Perimeter Shooting? Well this one is easy, who would you take in a shooting contest a group of Wally, Hoiberg, Hudson, Cassell or Finley, Terry,Howard,Daniels. Seems pretty easy to me

    And experience is just the factor that brings it all together, the wolves have guys who have proven themselves in NBA playoffs & finals. While outside of Finley nobody on the Mavs can stay they are playoff proven(maybe Stack). There is alot of inexperience in that Dallas backcourt.

    So if you add up all the factor and ask yourself who's depth would you take in a big situations its the perimeter of the T-wolves.</div>

    Well said, Obviously, I can offer no arguement against the fact that this
    Maverick collection is all new. Who knows, Stackhouse may be another
    Antoine Walker, or he may yet be traded. So I can only go on skill.
    Another point I cannot argue is that there may not be enough balls
    to go around. That's true, but the bounty of excess talent, does equate
    to depth.

    Defensively, both Josh Howard and Marquis Daniels are excellent stoppers,
    and Terry is a thief. This is something new for the Mavericks, and
    something NBA fans will need to give time to jell.

    Shooting, you might be right, except for the fact that this isn't a
    shooting competition. Yes, Hoiberg and Hudson can stroke it, but
    they are 5-7 PPG players, so obviously they don't stroke it very often.
    Cassel, he had a career year, no arguement there, but Wally? that
    guy will make every shot, except the important ones. Finley can
    flat out rip it, and does often. Stackhouse is more of a scorer than
    a shooter. Terry's shot percentage should improve with Dallas, he
    does have a nice shot. I'd call it even, both are in very elite territory
    in the NBA. I'd add Sacramento to a group of three teams that have
    this kind of shooting talent at the 1-2-3.

    The area where the Mavs take the big lead is on potential. Hudson,
    Hoiberg and Hassell have all proven themselves in this league as
    specialists and roll players. These are the kind of guys you want
    coming off the bench. But they are what they are.
    The Mavs have a bench of Marquis Daniels, who averaged 20P, 8R,
    7A at then end of last season and plays a game that could be
    compared to Tracy McGrady. Josh Howard, by all scouting reports,
    is a guy that is expected to develop into one of the best defenders
    and rebounders at the guard spot and can score from inside and out.
    Devin Harris, the #5 pick in the draft, is already one of the fastest
    players in the league, considered the most NBA-ready point guard
    in the draft, and could develop into an all-star. So if you wanna
    play the trade game, would you trade Hudson, Hoiberg, Hassell for
    Daniels, Howard, Harris? If you are a Wolves fan, of course you do.
     
  8. Hendrix

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    hey what about the suns
    Nash/Barbosa/Tabuse
    Richardson/Johnson
    Marion
     
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    The Sixers have a pretty deep backcourt,they have lots of guards and SF's so I guess that counts as depth cause all of them can contribute.

    pG-AI/Kevin Ollie
    SG-Willie Green/Aaron Mckie/John Salmons
    SF-G Robinson/Andre Iguodala/Kyle Korver

    We have lots of young guys that may bnot be getting much time at first but once Robinson is traded they will,but we do have depth.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">The Sixers have a pretty deep backcourt,they have lots of guards and SF's so I guess that counts as depth cause all of them can contribute.

    pG-AI/Kevin Ollie
    SG-Willie Green/Aaron Mckie/John Salmons
    SF-G Robinson/Andre Iguodala/Kyle Korver

    We have lots of young guys that may bnot be getting much time at first but once Robinson is traded they will,but we do have depth.</div>


    They're no wherer near being the deepest.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Saves:</div><div class="quote_post">They're no wherer near being the deepest.</div>
    Did I say they were the deepest,I said that the Sixers were deep and they are.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">Did I say they were the deepest,I said that the Sixers were deep and they are.</div>
    That was not the question asked in the thread though. [​IMG]
     
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    Basically everyone's being baised in answering this question, giving props to their own team saying they are the deepest e.t.c.

    For me in terms of talent the Sacramento Kings still have one the deepest team from PG,SG and SF

    Mike Bibby/Bobby Jackson/Doug Christie/Predrag Stojakovic and even Darius Songaila can slide out to SF at times.

    phoenix are also mad talented at these spots

    Steve Nash/Leandro Barbosa/Howard Eisley
    Joe Johnson/Quentin Richardson/Casey Jacobsen
    Shawn Marion/Zarko Cabarkapa

    Dallas have alot of very talented young guys on that bench. Quis Daniels and Josh Howard are both players I really like. I've been high on JH for quite a while, he was one of the most underrated players in last years draft. This kid is going to be a speical player on both ends.
     
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    the knicks aren't bad either
    Stephon Marbury/Jamal Crawford
    Allan Houston/Penny Hardaway/Jamal Crawford
    Tim Thomas/Penny Hardaway
     
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    the knicks are the deepest and the best it could get!!!just look at the line up ballin boy gave above!
     
  16. Henacy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Basically everyone's being baised in answering this question, giving props to their own team saying they are the deepest e.t.c.

    For me in terms of talent the Sacramento Kings still have one the deepest team from PG,SG and SF

    Mike Bibby/Bobby Jackson/Doug Christie/Predrag Stojakovic and even Darius Songaila can slide out to SF at times.

    phoenix are also mad talented at these spots

    Steve Nash/Leandro Barbosa/Howard Eisley
    Joe Johnson/Quentin Richardson/Casey Jacobsen
    Shawn Marion/Zarko Cabarkapa

    Dallas have alot of very talented young guys on that bench. Quis Daniels and Josh Howard are both players I really like. I've been high on JH for quite a while, he was one of the most underrated players in last years draft. This kid is going to be a speical player on both ends.</div>

    Honestly, It may seem like I was being baised because Sammy is apart of Minny's perimeter but really I wasnt... I was simply basing my opinion on which perimeter would be most effective on both ends of the court. If we are simply talking offensively then the Kings perimeter is definately the deepest. But who besides Doug Christie is a good perimeter defender on that team? that perimeter probably can give up as many points as they score.


    And chemistry was also a big factor Minny has that... I mean Phoenix is stacked talent wise like you said. But minutes willl be tight with those guys on the wing, may not be enuff to go around, which could lead to chemistry & rotation problems. Joe Johnson was a very inconsistent player last time he was sharing major minutes at the shooting guard. And Q-Rich can get shot happy. So I dont think of them as the deepest until we see how those guys gel
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Basically everyone's being baised in answering this question, giving props to their own team saying they are the deepest e.t.c.

    For me in terms of talent the Sacramento Kings still have one the deepest team from PG,SG and SF

    Mike Bibby/Bobby Jackson/Doug Christie/Predrag Stojakovic and even Darius Songaila can slide out to SF at times.

    phoenix are also mad talented at these spots

    Steve Nash/Leandro Barbosa/Howard Eisley
    Joe Johnson/Quentin Richardson/Casey Jacobsen
    Shawn Marion/Zarko Cabarkapa

    Dallas have alot of very talented young guys on that bench. Quis Daniels and Josh Howard are both players I really like. I've been high on JH for quite a while, he was one of the most underrated players in last years draft. This kid is going to be a speical player on both ends.</div>


    Agreed, on all points. If Sac still had Peeler, and his 48% from 3-point
    range, I'd give it to them hands down. As is, I gotta give the
    nod to Sac over my Mavs because Peja and Bibby as starters beat
    Finley and Terry, and Bobby Jackson is more proven than Devin Harris.
    After Sac's first four, they look very very thin.
    The Howard, Daniels, Harris combination is truly a reason for
    us Mavs fans to look forward to the next five seasons.

    So you mentioned a few teams, who is THE DEEPEST?

    Looking on Hoopshype depth charts, Memphis, Denver, Lakers, Jazz,
    Seattle, San Antonio, Chicago (with their two rookies), Detroit, Indiana
    all have considerable depth.

    Least deep, Atlanta by far, Houston isn't looking very good either.
     
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    The Magic are the deepest with Francis/Mobely/Hill/Turkolu/Bogans/Nelson/Stevenson/Garrity/Augmon
     
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    how about the nuggets there pretty deep

    pg-miller/boykins
    sg-lenard/anthony
    sf-anthony/nene
     
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    Nuggets do have a great setup. They have Young and old players that can play at both ends. But it has to go to the Sacremento Kings for sure. They are to talented on the court and on the bench.
     

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