Defense! Defense!

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  1. Crossover

    Crossover JBB JustBBall Member

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    Now, this was a conversation between myself and someone I know living in Dallas who praises the Mavericks without regard of their weaknesses. Watch as he embarrasses himself.

    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Damn, they won.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Damn straight
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> >_<
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They shouldn't have.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> This was their first win on the road against an Eastern Conference team.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> They shouldn't have won?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> why's that?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Because they don't play defense.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Seen that open lane they left for Shannon Anderson?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> trust me, they won that game in the 4th quarter
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Shameful.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> that bad call by the ref was just..
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They got tied in the 4th...
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> BAD
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> nash didn't foul marbury
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> that was a mistake
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Yeah, he did.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> all he did was raise his hand up
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Marbury woulda at least hit rim.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> marbury leaned into him
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> That's what offensive players do.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Refs are stupid sometimes
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> That was not a foul.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Stupid sometimes?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Haha.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Oh, most of the time.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> lol
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Really, you should watch other teams outside of the Mavericks.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And watch them play defense.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Watch Ben Wallace, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. They'll show you a real shotblocker.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And KG vs Duncan is Wednesday on FoxSports Net.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> How many low defense plays did the mavs have today?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Most of them.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Count them next game for me
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Alright.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Friday, I believe, they show on Fox Sports Net.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> show what?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> A Mavs game...
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Wednesday
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> 76ers i believe..
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Wednesday?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Spurs and Wolves play Wednesday.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Watch that game.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Watch the defense.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> What exactly do i look for?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Everything they do on defense.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Shotblocking, steals, box out, stepping out, screens.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> I'm sure Dallas plays defense
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They wiggle around a little. That's not distracting enough.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> You should also watch Dallas for good defense, rather then bragging about all the bad defense
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> ROFL
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I watch almost every Dallas game that airs.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Their defense is almost nonexistent.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Dallas should swarm the player?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They need to learn to play man to man instead of zone.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I should take Don Nelson's job.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> HAH.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> What do you think is good defense?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Sticking the man close up
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> moving around picks and sticking the man
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Ginboli's on TNT
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> hurry!
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I'm watching.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Barkley's crazy about him
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> lol
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> You scream out GINOBLI too?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> lmao
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Yep.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> lol
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> hahaha
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And btw, you really don't have a concept of what good defense is.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Tony Parker's accent cracks me up the most
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Watch Detroit, Indiana, San Antonio.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Three best defenses in the league.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And yeah, he's funny.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font>: Getting quick into fast break defense?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> man to man?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> not letting the man move as a result of manning close up to his body?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> shot blocking?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> moving around picks or switching off a man as a pick happens?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> defense is defense
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Defense is a collective unit.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Being able to force bad shots without taking a foul.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Causing turnovers.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Et cetera, et cetera.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> oh yeah turnovers
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> that wasn't a foul in the 4th quarter by nash
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And the Mavs have the lowest turnovers per game average in the league.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> For one reason.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> nash did good defense there
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> the ref just called a bad call
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> well, one good defense there
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They catch, and they shoot.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Not this game
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> It's what they do.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> i can see Nelly coached them well after the Detroit game
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> they made more shot fakes
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Ever wonder why they score so much?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and they drove in a bit more
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Catch, shoot.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> It's still catching a shooting.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Whether they decide to shot fake or drive.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They still trying to score.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And quickly.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> dirk is a shooter
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> most of the mavs are shooters
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Most of the Mavs need to be scorers.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> they are shooters
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They NEED to be scorers.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> omg
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> You aren't going to win a championship with a jump shooting team.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> You contradicted yourself
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> You can't always settle on an outside shot.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> "dallas is an offensive team"
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and u said dallas needs to be scorers?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I did not contradict myself.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> dallas doesn't always do an outside shot
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> There is a difference between shooting and scoring.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> they take outside shots because they're open
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> they take 2 point shots as well
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I'm alking about those, too.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They need to get into the paint.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and it's bad?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> antwan jamison in the point
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> walker in the point
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> It's okay during the regular season, but for the playoffs...
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> nash in the point
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> paint**
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Paint, spell it right.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> lol
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Dallas goes in the paint
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> they're just known to shoot
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Walker and Jamison make their way into the paint.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and if you're good at shooting, my god do it
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Nash is at the free throw line.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and do it more often then in the paint
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Almost everyone else shoots.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> yep, we have a mix
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and nash stops and pops and does many layups
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_tea...tics/00002.html
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> we just don't have a big man like Shaq
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Look at that.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> And bradley doesn't get many minutes
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> You have Dirk and Bradley.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Both SHOULD be great shotblockers, and they need to develop into that.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Braldey is too skinny
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Bradley is 7'6"...
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> you don't need shot blocks
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> u just need defense
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> shot blocks are rare anyway
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Shotblocking is a part of defense.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and hard to get
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> RARE?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> not alot happen during a game
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> lmao
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Camby had 8 my himself the other night.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Bradley doesn't start
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and he rarely gets over 20 minutes
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Dikembe had 10 earlier on in the season.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Blocks aren't rare.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> He's big a muscular and actually MOVEA
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and*
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> MOVES*
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> lmao.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I gotta post this one.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> I was talking about Dikembe
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Dikembe is rarely outside the paint.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Bradley is slow yes, and he isn't very muscular...so it's tough for him
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> yeah..of course
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> he's a paint guy
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Bradley is one of the leading shotblockers of all time.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Well, he isn't doing good this season with it
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> He doesn't play.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> exactly my point
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Nelson doesn't want to play his best center.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> I question Nelson myself
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Question him for his subs...
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> and other things
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> But Dallas allows so many points per game...
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> You don't just give up 120 points to a Phoenix team.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Well, they had recent trades and such
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> So?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> so...that makes a difference
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> an extra 30+ points helps
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> rofl.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I don't care if Michael Jordan in his PRIME was on that team.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> I'm talking about Marbury
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> You DON'T just give up 120 points to Phoenix.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> In regulation.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> uhhh...
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> You're acting like Phoenix is one player
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Phoenix is a team
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> And differen't people make different teams
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They're not a high scoring team, if you didn't notice.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> one player can make the team score less
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Well, not THAT high scoring.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> like i said, they made recent trades
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Marbury assists and scores
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> So?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> so he helps other score more and scores alot himself
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> One player doesn't make a team, remember?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Nash does the same thing.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> one player can change a team though
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> And mavs get high scoring with nash's assists
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> That's why the Mavs beat Marbury tonight, right?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> One player can change a team, but one player can't be the team.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> i know that
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Like I said, you don't give up 120 points to Phoenixz.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> It was overtime..
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> No it wasn't.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> 26 Wed @ Phoenix L 121-90 10-5 A. Jamison 17
    A. Walker 8
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> http://www.nba.com/mavericks/schedule/
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font>oh yeah...
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And I watched that game, too.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> That was the blowout.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Everyone had a bad night
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Uh huh...
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> they had their morale down
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> How?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> They were coming off a 4 game win streak at the time.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> they just couldn't shoot, they were losing, didn't have home advantage
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I wonder why they're a horrible road team...
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Maybe defense could be a factor.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Because mavs play with the crowd
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> It's just a part of them
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> it's a feeling/emotional thing
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Then how do they expect to win anything in the playoffs?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> If they can't win on the road.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> That's just some horse **** they need to get over.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> And they're trying
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> And in the event that they could make the NBA Finals, they still can't beat an eastern team away from home.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Tonight was their first on the season.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> I'm aware
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Just take a closer look at your team.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> It's all about defense
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I can count the times they've played man to man on one hand this season.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> That's right.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> We know they can score.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> I'll email Mark Cuban
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Good.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Have fun.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Have fun writing an email..
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Because you MUST have defense. When the shots aren't falling, you'll need a stop.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Well, bedtime for me.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Did last year's Dallas have defense?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> No.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Night night.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Night

    I'm red, he's blue. Even deestillballin has to agree to this...
     
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    LMAO! what an IDIOT, goodness kinda asamed to say im a Dallas Fan after reading that convo.
     
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    InNETSweTrust JBB Philippines' Finest

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    Hahaha. I love this part:

    AZN pryde4liyfe: I'm sure Dallas plays defense
    top Dubb: They wiggle around a little. That's not distracting enough.
    AZN pryde4liyfe: You should also watch Dallas for good defense, rather then bragging about all the bad defense

    Wiggle around a little??! ROFLMAO.

    BTW, you forgot to mention NJ for the defensive teams. [​IMG]
     
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    Crossover JBB JustBBall Member

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    New Jersey has great defense most of the time, but not in the top three this year, so far.

    And I see you liked my light humor. ;D Dee, it's okay... *hugs her*
     
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    yes, dallas is overrated and trash at defense...cuban should trade whoever it takes to bring in a few defensive stoppers, inside and on the perimeter...
     
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    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> WHOO!
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> I know you watched it..
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> It showed?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> On FSN?
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> UPN!
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Oh.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Antoine Walker hit a buzzerbeater and won
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> UPN doesn't show them here.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> with 1.6 seconds left on the inbound pass
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Great defense by the Mavs.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Allowing 116 points is great.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Great defense by Seattle
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> 118 points
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> if you watched the game you won't say that
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Both teams were great on defense tonight.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> both teams had about 50% 3 pointers
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I know.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> Seattle had 11 3 pointers and Dallas had 11 3's too
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I'm looking at Dirk's career highs here.
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> I don't really watch many Mavs games anymore, anyway.
    <font color="blue">AZN pryde4liyfe:</font> why?
    <font color="red">top Dubb:</font> Because I know you'll always provide me with the unbiased game recap.
     

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