The Nets have actually been decent offensively in the last two games. It is the defense that has hurt them. You might say that Philly and Detroit just got hot but that is sweeping the problem under the rug, as Kidd would say.</p> 1) The defensive rotations are poor. Boki and Allen seem to be the worst of the lot.</p> 2) They don't challege every shot. In fact, other than Wright and Williams, no one else consistently contests shots.</p> 3) Passive defense. Other than Kidd, no one even tries to get deflections or steals. They are 23rd in the league in steals per game. This is why they have to work harder on offense as there are very few easy baskets.</p> 4) Perimeter defense: The Nets are dead last in opponenet 3pt FG% defense (conceding an alarming 40% from beyond the arc). This is one of the reasons why they get down by 10-20 in a hurry. They let teams shoot uncontested 3s in transition or in half-court sets.</p>
The biggest problem is that when one guy isslow on his rotation no one else covers for him, besides Wright and Collins. They are the only two I've seen actually cover the other guys man when there is a defensive lapse. Unacceptable.</p>
Nets defense this year makes me think Stevie Wonder could do better out there defensively. It's disgusting to watch and another reason why I'm not surprised this team is playing so bad.</p>
I'm still trying to figure out why we just leave players wide open on the perimeter. And why the fuck Malik Allen is still on the team.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I'm still trying to figure out why we just leave players wide open on the perimeter. And why the fuck Malik Allen is still on the team.</p> </div></p> </p> 'Cuz he can hit the open shat!</p> But yeah I also don't understand why nobody on this team contests perimeter shots.</p>
we were a good defensive team when magloire played. As soon as he got benched for some unknown reason, the defense fell apart. There was a stat that showed in two games where Magloire played against the Bulls and Wiz, the paint was completely shut down once Magloire entered</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> we were a good defensive team when magloire played. As soon as he got benched for some unknown reason, the defense fell apart. There was a stat that showed in two games where Magloire played against the Bulls and Wiz, the paint was completely shut down once Magloire entered</p> </div></p> I think he should at least play over Allen.</p> </p> Over Sean and Collins? I dont think so. Plus Boone has been stepping up his play as of late, which is a reason. He was making so many mistakes on the offensive end(dont use the argument that Collins makes the offense suffer, because in actuality, when Magloire was on the floor the offense suffered thanks to his stone hands. even when he got the defensive rebound, it would had just led to a turnover or a bad posession).</p> </p> Again though, Allen should be taken out of the rotation. He has been hitting his shots, but he hurts the team a lot on the defensive end, in rebounding, and on offense when he holds on to the ball for too long.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I'm still trying to figure out why we just leave players wide open on the perimeter. And why the fuck Malik Allen is still on the team.</p> </div></p> For every 10 points he scores, he allows another 14 to be scored on him....</p> </p>
40 percent from threes is not very good. If they are open that long, then we are being mixed up on defense by more than we think.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> 40 percent from threes is not very good. If they are open that long, then we are being mixed up on defense by more than we think.</p> </div></p> </p> We're trying too hard to play help defense.</p> I partly blame the coach, and partly blame RJ and Kidd...since they're the ones I've seen it from the most.</p>
One major reason for the exceptionally poor perimeter defense is that this team is too intent on denying paint points. Everyone constantly collapses to deny drives and leaves the weakside so unprotected that two passes, at most, yields a wide open 3 pointer. With Collins and Allen in the game, fine, let that be the strategy. But with Williams in the game, the strategy ought to be the opposite. With very few exceptions (LeBron, Wade, etc.). stay up on your man, deny the shot, do your best to contain the dribble individually, and turn Sean loose when the guy gets inside. He's that good in terms of timing and waiting until the last possible minute to leave his man to get the block. What is a 6'5" guard going to do with Williams looming anyway? I almost WANT guys to come inside on him because he has such a knack for either altering their shot or getting a block that leads to a transition opportunity. In the mean time, you will cut down dramatically on 3 point FG%.</p> The old wisdom is that interior scoring is the most hurtful to a team and that denying points in the paint is the end all defensive aim. That was more sound in yesterday's game before the league was so packed with high percentage, aggresive long range shooters and coaches who give them the green light. There are a lot of teams (Toronto anyone?) who are far more dangerous outside than inside and should be defended accordingly.</p> But good luck getting Frank to acknowledge this. The last two Net training camp broadcasts show just how much he emphasizes "no paint" drills and perimeter collapse/help scenarios.</p>
FOAM you are right, we should play one and one defense more than the zone defense, we have a strong shot blocker inside, we don't need to play help defense. I prefer allow the opponents to make a layup than make the three all day long.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Dec 18 2007, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> One major reason for the exceptionally poor perimeter defense is that this team is too intent on denying paint points. Everyone constantly collapses to deny drives and leaves the weakside so unprotected that two passes, at most, yields a wide open 3 pointer. With Collins and Allen in the game, fine, let that be the strategy. But with Williams in the game, the strategy ought to be the opposite. With very few exceptions (LeBron, Wade, etc.). stay up on your man, deny the shot, do your best to contain the dribble individually, and turn Sean loose when the guy gets inside. He's that good in terms of timing and waiting until the last possible minute to leave his man to get the block. What is a 6'5" guard going to do with Williams looming anyway? I almost WANT guys to come inside on him because he has such a knack for either altering their shot or getting a block that leads to a transition opportunity. In the mean time, you will cut down dramatically on 3 point FG%.</p> The old wisdom is that interior scoring is the most hurtful to a team and that denying points in the paint is the end all defensive aim. That was more sound in yesterday's game before the league was so packed with high percentage, aggresive long range shooters and coaches who give them the green light. There are a lot of teams (Toronto anyone?) who are far more dangerous outside than inside and should be defended accordingly.</p> But good luck getting Frank to acknowledge this. The last two Net training camp broadcasts show just how much he emphasizes "no paint" drills and perimeter collapse/help scenarios.</p></div> I knew it. Frank pisses me off with his skewed defensive philosophy, and his inability to learn from his mistakes. I mean, you'd think after a few years of shitty perimeter defense, he'd change his defensive philosophy a bit, but here we are, worst in the league at guarding the 3.
