Denny, grab some solar!

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    http://pvdepot.com/install-supplies-2.html

    I don't know what type of system you are thinking of getting, but this place can sell PV supplies for a big discount. You can even go "off-grid" with this company.

    Here are the equipment I have on my existing system. And remember to take an additional 30% for the federal and state tax savings.

    Here is the breakdown of my 12kwh system.

    1.) 2 - Power One, PVI-6000: Total Cost: $6,250.00

    2.) 50 - Canadian Solar 250 Watt CS6P: Total Price: $11,875.00

    3.) 50 - UniRac, Frame: Total Price: $2,055.00

    4.) Misc electrical conduit, wiring, and connectors: $3,000

    5.) Having an Electrician install the system: $2,500-$3,000

    Total install: $26,180
    Total Fed Income credit: $7,854 (discount will vary with income tax line) - Highest is $3,927.00

    Total price with highest possible discount: $22,253 ($1.85 per watt).
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Oh and I forgot that Chase Bank is offering 1.5% loans for solar projects.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It'll only take me 15 years to recover the $22.2K

    What a deal!

    If you get a loan to buy the solar, they are not transferable. So you have to take the hit of paying it off if you sell the home. This according to a realtor friend.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Do you understand that your system wouldn't even be close to this system? How much kWh do you use a day? This system would generate minimum of 48kwh per day.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    System specifications for: San Diego, CA
    Utility: Other

    Solar Radiance:5.94 kWh/sq m/day
    Avg. Monthly Usage:1,000 kWh/month
    System Size:6.99 kW
    Roof Size:698 sq. ft.
    Estimated Cost:$41,911.50
    Post Incentive Cost:$29,338.05
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Is this your house?

    Each Sq Ft gives you approx. 9 watts. That would be 6,300 watt system. If you used the link I provided; that would cost you much less.

    If you are only wanting to make 6kw per day; then divide that by 4 hours of sun time. That's 1,500 watts worth of panels and a 1.5 kWh inverter. That system is less than 10k

    EDIT: Ooops I didn't see your 1,000kwh per month. You would need 33 kilowatts per day. That would be a 8 kwh system. Still less than 20k without incentives.
     
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    Your link doesn't show the price of the panels, just the mounting materials.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Here is the hardware needed for a 9k system. $2,634.32 (30% discount from the supplier link I provided) = $1,844

    Requires 36 (250 watt panels) = $8,550

    Power One, PVI-10 3-Ph Grid Tied Inverter, 10kW, 208 VAC, PVI-10.0-I-OUTD-US-S-208 = $5,051

    Labor for an electrician to install is = $2,000

    Total price without fed credit: $15,645

    So tell me who is raping you on their quote?
     
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    Mags,

    a) is this a federal or Cal subsidy (i.e., can I use it in Florida)?
    b) if I'm building, can I get my contractor to use this and wrap it into the construction price, or do I have to go outside of the construction loan?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The subsidy is federal, so Florida is good.

    Yes you can have it wrapped in your construction budget and the subsidy includes installation for credit

    Ps, you should look into Florida credits too. Usually they have additional incentives
     
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    Not big enough to run my shop and requires way too much space to use on my boat.
    Still need a diesel Genset in both. The the question becomes why do I need all that shit along with the Genset?

    But seriously I would like to make it work on the boat, I tried my best but I can spend a lot of money and not get the job done.
    Just a couple weeks ago I looked into setting up enough solar to charge a starter battery in the event I was foolish enough to run all the batteries down.
    Damn! The best I could do, cost three times the price of a little 800w portable generator which I can stuff below and wait for the dumb to come.
     
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    Speaking of dumb, I thought sailboats were powered by the wind.
     
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    Very true as far as moving from place to place. Electricity does the trick though for running refrigerators, freezers, radios, GPS, autopilots, computers, sonar, and lights.
     
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    How big is your boat?
     
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