Detroit Pistons Real Player Ratings by the Month

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  1. tremaine

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    I made a sweet internet discovery the day before yesterday; I found a place that archives who did what by the month This is very valuable, because it bridges the gap between mere game stats at the one extreme and cumulative season stats at the other extreme. Looking at how players have done by the month can give you extremely valuable information that you could not get otherwise. Both coaches and players can definitely be evaluated more accurately than before.

    For example, remember at the beginning of the season, during November, Iverson was PG for Detroit? You can see how he did while he was designated PG. And you can see how the other players did while he was PG. Then you can compare all of that to another month, January for example, when Iverson was 2-guard again.

    The Pistons have made so many starting lineup and rotation changes this year that everyone's head is spinning. But I have just the medicine: monthly Real Player Ratings, which if you are smart will suggest reasons why some starting lineups and rotations were and are better than others.

    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Quality of Players
    DURING NOVEMBER 2008

    Amir Johnson 0.830
    Allen Iverson 0.753
    Will Bynum 0.752
    Rasheed Wallace 0.749
    Tayshaun Prince 0.740
    Rodney Stuckey 0.635
    Jason Maxiell 0.629
    Walter Hermann 0.628
    Richard Hamilton 0.600
    Kwame Brown 0.591
    Aaron Afflalo 0.405

    When using the ratings and the scale below, do not forget that the smaller the number of games included, the more a player may be above or below his long term career rating. For example, Amir Johnson was a star player during November 2008, but he may or may not be a star player for the season as a whole, and he may or may not be a star player for his career as a whole.

    SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Perfect Player? Is there Such a Thing? 1.000 and more
    Historic Super Star 0.950 and more
    Super Star 0.850 0.949
    A Star Player; An Extremely Good Starter 0.775 0.849
    A Great Player; A Solid Starter 0.700 0.774
    Major Role Player 0.650 0.699
    Role Player 0.600 0.649
    Minor Role Player 0.550 0.599
    Very Minor Role Player 0.500 0.549
    Poor Player at This Time 0.450 0.499
    Very Poor Player at This Time 0.350 0.449
    Extremely Poor Player at This Time / Disaster and less 0.349


    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
    Quantity of Players
    DURING NOVEMBER 2008

    Rasheed Wallace 364.90
    Tayshaun Prince 359.05
    Allen Iverson 305.05
    Richard Hamilton 289.95
    Jason Maxiell 168.70
    Rodney Stuckey 154.25
    Amir Johnson 147.05
    Kwame Brown 105.45
    Aaron Afflalo 96.85
    Walter Hermann 86.10
    Will Bynum 72.80


    DETROIT PISTONS
    DEFENDING SUBRATING
    Tracked and Hidden Defending
    DURING NOVEMBER 2008

    Amir Johnson 0.572
    Kwame Brown 0.499
    Rasheed Wallace 0.443
    Allen Iverson 0.387
    Will Bynum 0.377
    Tayshaun Prince 0.304
    Rodney Stuckey 0.295
    Jason Maxiell 0.195
    Richard Hamilton 0.155
    Aaron Afflalo 0.121
    Walter Hermann 0.093


    DETROIT PISTONS
    OFFENSE SUBRATING
    All Tracked Offensive Actions
    DURING NOVEMBER 2008

    Will Bynum 0.535
    Walter Hermann 0.535
    Tayshaun Prince 0.490
    Richard Hamilton 0.479
    Allen Iverson 0.471
    Amir Johnson 0.453
    Jason Maxiell 0.437
    Rodney Stuckey 0.430
    Rasheed Wallace 0.366
    Aaron Afflalo 0.287
    Kwame Brown 0.242

    The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is here.

    Sat, Nov 1 Washington W 117-109
    Mon, Nov 3 @ Charlotte W 101-83
    Wed, Nov 5 @ Toronto W 100-93

    Fri, Nov 7 @ New Jersey L 96-103

    Sun, Nov 9 Boston L 76-88
    Tue, Nov 11 @ Sacramento W 100-92
    Thu, Nov 13 @ Golden State W 107-102
    Fri, Nov 14 @ LA Lakers W 106-95

    Sun, Nov 16 @ Phoenix L 86-104
    Wed, Nov 19 Cleveland W 96-89
    Thu, Nov 20 @ Boston L 80-98

    Sun, Nov 23 Minnesota L 80-106

    Wed, Nov 26 NY Knicks W 110-96
    Fri, Nov 28 Milwaukee W 107-97
    Sun, Nov 30 Portland L 85-96
     
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    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Quality of Players
    DURING DECEMBER 2008

    Rodney Stuckey 0.882
    Allen Iverson 0.802
    Antonio McDyess 0.698
    Amir Johnson 0.673
    Richard Hamilton 0.653
    Rasheed Wallace 0.648
    Tayshaun Prince 0.637
    Jason Maxiell 0.452
    Kwame Brown 0.439
    Arron Afflalo 0.347

    When using the ratings above and the scale below, do not forget that the smaller the number of games included, the more a player may be above or below his long term career rating. For example, Amir Johnson was a star player during November 2008, but he may or may not be a star player for the season as a whole, and he may or may not be a star player for his career as a whole.

    SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Perfect Player? Is there Such a Thing? 1.000 and more
    Historic Super Star 0.950 and more
    Super Star 0.850 0.949
    A Star Player; An Extremely Good Starter 0.775 0.849
    A Great Player; A Solid Starter 0.700 0.774
    Major Role Player 0.650 0.699
    Role Player 0.600 0.649
    Minor Role Player 0.550 0.599
    Very Minor Role Player 0.500 0.549
    Poor Player at This Time 0.450 0.499
    Very Poor Player at This Time 0.350 0.449
    Extremely Poor Player at This Time / Disaster and less 0.349


    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
    Quantity of Players
    DURING DECEMBER 2008

    Allen Iverson 383.35
    Rodney Stuckey 375.90
    Tayshaun Prince 335.85
    Rasheed Wallace 258.05
    Richard Hamilton 237.60
    Antonio McDyess 164.85
    Arron Afflalo 91.45
    Jason Maxiell 76.60
    Amir Johnson 71.45
    Kwame Brown 30.60


    DETROIT PISTONS
    DEFENDING SUBRATING
    Tracked and Hidden Defending
    DURING DECEMBER 2008

    Amir Johnson 0.534
    Kwame Brown 0.416
    Rasheed Wallace 0.414
    Allen Iverson 0.390
    Rodney Stuckey 0.327
    Tayshaun Prince 0.314
    Antonio McDyess 0.307
    Jason Maxiell 0.203
    Richard Hamilton 0.141
    Arron Afflalo 0.101


    DETROIT PISTONS
    OFFENSE SUBRATING
    All Tracked Offensive Actions
    DURING DECEMBER 2008

    Rodney Stuckey 0.649
    Richard Hamilton 0.547
    Allen Iverson 0.521
    Antonio McDyess 0.417
    Tayshaun Prince 0.371
    Amir Johnson 0.298
    Rasheed Wallace 0.289
    Jason Maxiell 0.251
    Arron Afflalo 0.250
    Kwame Brown 0.085

    The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is here.

    Tue, Dec 2 @ San Antonio W 89-77

    Fri, Dec 5 Philadelphia L 91-96

    Sun, Dec 7 @ NY Knicks L 92-104
    Tue, Dec 9 @ Washington L 94-107
    Fri, Dec 12 Indiana W 114-110
    Sat, Dec 13 @ Charlotte W 90-86

    Wed, Dec 17 Washington W 88-74
    Fri, Dec 19 Utah L 114-120 OT
    Sun, Dec 21 @ Atlanta L 78-85

    Tue, Dec 23 Chicago W 104-98

    Fri, Dec 26 Oklahoma City W 90-88

    Sat, Dec 27 @ Milwaukee W 87-76

    Mon, Dec 29 Orlando W 88-82
    Wed, Dec 31 New Jersey W 83-75
     
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    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Quality of Players
    DURING JANUARY 2009

    Will Bynum 0.889
    Rodney Stuckey 0.729
    Rasheed Wallace 0.687
    Antonio McDyess 0.673
    Tayshaun Prince 0.653
    Kwame Brown 0.647
    Jason Maxiell 0.638
    Allen Iverson 0.637
    Richard Hamilton 0.622
    Amir Johnson 0.587
    Arron Afflalo 0.238

    When using the ratings above and the scale below, do not forget that the smaller the number of games included, the more a player may be above or below his long term career rating. For example, Amir Johnson was a star player during November 2008, but he may or may not be a star player for the season as a whole, and he may or may not be a star player for his career as a whole.

    SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Perfect Player? Is there Such a Thing? 1.000 and more
    Historic Super Star 0.950 and more
    Super Star 0.850 0.949
    A Star Player; An Extremely Good Starter 0.775 0.849
    A Great Player; A Solid Starter 0.700 0.774
    Major Role Player 0.650 0.699
    Role Player 0.600 0.649
    Minor Role Player 0.550 0.599
    Very Minor Role Player 0.500 0.549
    Poor Player at This Time 0.450 0.499
    Very Poor Player at This Time 0.350 0.449
    Extremely Poor Player at This Time / Disaster and less 0.349


    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
    Quantity of Players
    DURING JANUARY 2009

    Rodney Stuckey 351.05
    Tayshaun Prince 333.45
    Allen Iverson 299.15
    Antonio McDyess 228.75
    Rasheed Wallace 225.70
    Richard Hamilton 178.80
    Jason Maxiell 145.00
    Amir Johnson 101.85
    Kwame Brown 66.15
    Arron Afflalo 48.50
    Will Bynum 47.70

    DETROIT PISTONS
    DEFENDING SUBRATING
    Tracked and Hidden Defending
    DURING JANUARY 2009

    Kwame Brown 0.525
    Amir Johnson 0.499
    Rasheed Wallace 0.427
    Antonio McDyess 0.379
    Will Bynum 0.376
    Allen Iverson 0.339
    Tayshaun Prince 0.300
    Rodney Stuckey 0.295
    Jason Maxiell 0.183
    Richard Hamilton 0.139
    Arron Afflalo 0.014


    DETROIT PISTONS
    OFFENSE SUBRATING
    All Tracked Offensive Actions
    DURING JANUARY 2009

    Will Bynum 0.680
    Rodney Stuckey 0.529
    Richard Hamilton 0.518
    Jason Maxiell 0.457
    Allen Iverson 0.413
    Tayshaun Prince 0.404
    Rasheed Wallace 0.317
    Antonio McDyess 0.315
    Kwame Brown 0.267
    Amir Johnson 0.262
    Arron Afflalo 0.230

    The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is here.

    GAMES
    Fri, Jan 2 Sacramento W 98-92
    Sun, Jan 4 @ LA Clippers W 88-87
    Wed, Jan 7 @ Portland L 83-84

    Fri, Jan 9 @ Denver W 93-90
    Sat, Jan 10 @ Utah L 82-99
    Tue, Jan 13 Charlotte L 78-80


    Wed, Jan 14 @ Indiana L 106-110 OT
    Fri, Jan 16 @ Oklahoma City L 79-89

    Sat, Jan 17 New Orleans L 85-91
    Mon, Jan 19 @ Memphis W 87-79
    Wed, Jan 21 Toronto W 95-76
    Fri, Jan 23 Dallas L 91-112
    Sun, Jan 25 Houston L 105-108

    Wed, Jan 28 @ Minnesota W 98-89

    Fri, Jan 30 Boston L 78-86
     
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    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Quality of Players
    DURING FEBRUARY 2009

    Allen Iverson 0.789
    Richard Hamilton 0.768
    Antonio McDyess 0.733
    Rasheed Wallace 0.719
    Tayshaun Prince 0.640
    Amir Johnson 0.583
    Rodney Stuckey 0.439
    Jason Maxiell 0.426
    Walter Hermann 0.245
    Arron Afflalo 0.131

    When using the ratings above and the scale below, do not forget that the smaller the number of games included, the more a player may be above or below his long term career rating. For example, Amir Johnson was a star player during November 2008, but he may or may not be a star player for the season as a whole, and he may or may not be a star player for his career as a whole.

    SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Perfect Player? Is there Such a Thing? 1.000 and more
    Historic Super Star 0.950 and more
    Super Star 0.850 0.949
    A Star Player; An Extremely Good Starter 0.775 0.849
    A Great Player; A Solid Starter 0.700 0.774
    Major Role Player 0.650 0.699
    Role Player 0.600 0.649
    Minor Role Player 0.550 0.599
    Very Minor Role Player 0.500 0.549
    Poor Player at This Time 0.450 0.499
    Very Poor Player at This Time 0.350 0.449
    Extremely Poor Player at This Time / Disaster and less 0.349


    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
    Quantity of Players
    DURING FEBRUARY 2009

    Richard Hamilton 281.75
    Antonio McDyess 275.20
    Rasheed Wallace 266.20
    Tayshaun Prince 262.85
    Allen Iverson 241.95
    Rodney Stuckey 132.15
    Jason Maxiell 83.10
    Amir Johnson 44.15
    Walter Hermann 13.25
    Arron Afflalo 10.75


    DETROIT PISTONS
    DEFENDING SUBRATING
    Tracked and Hidden Defending
    DURING FEBRUARY 2009

    Amir Johnson 0.508
    Rasheed Wallace 0.417
    Allen Iverson 0.385
    Antonio McDyess 0.300
    Tayshaun Prince 0.276
    Rodney Stuckey 0.243
    Walter Hermann 0.147
    Jason Maxiell 0.145
    Richard Hamilton 0.108
    Arron Afflalo 0.049


    DETROIT PISTONS
    OFFENSE SUBRATING
    All Tracked Offensive Actions
    DURING FEBRUARY 2009

    Richard Hamilton 0.698
    Allen Iverson 0.513
    Antonio McDyess 0.461
    Tayshaun Prince 0.417
    Rasheed Wallace 0.365
    Rodney Stuckey 0.295
    Amir Johnson 0.287
    Jason Maxiell 0.283
    Walter Hermann 0.098
    Arron Afflalo 0.086

    The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is here.

    GAMES
    Sun, Feb 1 Cleveland L 80-90
    Wed, Feb 4 Miami W 93-90

    Sat, Feb 7 @ Milwaukee W 126-121 OT

    Sun, Feb 8 Phoenix L 97-107
    Tue, Feb 10 @ Chicago L 102-107
    Wed, Feb 11 Atlanta L 95-99
    Tue, Feb 17 Milwaukee L 86-92

    Thu, Feb 19 San Antonio L 79-83
    Sun, Feb 22 @ Cleveland L 78-99
    Tue, Feb 24 @ Miami L 91-103
    Wed, Feb 25 @ New Orleans L 87-90

    Fri, Feb 27 @ Orlando W 93-85
     
  5. tremaine

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    For reference, the ratings for all the 4 months combined into the 2008-09 ratings through Feb. 25 are here. Rodney Stuckey was .800 on Feb. 8 and dropped like a rock to .700 as of Feb. 25:

    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Quality of Players
    2008-09 REGULAR SEASON
    THROUGH FEB. 25 2009

    Allen Iverson† 0.744
    Antonio McDyess 0.712
    Rodney Stuckey 0.700
    Rasheed Wallace 0.697
    Amir Johnson 0.688
    Tayshaun Prince 0.680
    Richard Hamilton 0.638
    Kwame Brown 0.580
    Jason Maxiell 0.558
    Arron Afflalo 0.321

    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
    Quantity of Players
    2008-09 REGULAR SEASON
    THROUGH FEB. 25 2009

    Tayshaun Prince 1287.65
    Allen Iverson† 1207.25
    Rasheed Wallace 1088.90
    Rodney Stuckey 994.85
    Richard Hamilton 932.20
    Antonio McDyess 651.20
    Jason Maxiell 461.80
    Amir Johnson 382.85
    Arron Afflalo 256.20
    Kwame Brown 215.45

    DETROIT PISTONS
    DEFENDING SUBRATING
    Tracked and Hidden Defending
    2008-09 REGULAR SEASON
    THROUGH FEB. 25 2009

    Amir Johnson 0.534
    Kwame Brown 0.495
    Rasheed Wallace 0.426
    Allen Iverson† 0.373
    Antonio McDyess 0.331
    Tayshaun Prince 0.304
    Rodney Stuckey 0.294
    Jason Maxiell 0.186
    Richard Hamilton 0.135
    Arron Afflalo 0.083

    DETROIT PISTONS
    OFFENSE SUBRATING
    All Tracked Offensive Actions
    2008-09 REGULAR SEASON
    THROUGH FEB. 25 2009

    Richard Hamilton 0.539
    Rodney Stuckey 0.501
    Allen Iverson† 0.480
    Tayshaun Prince 0.427
    Antonio McDyess 0.407
    Jason Maxiell 0.374
    Amir Johnson 0.335
    Rasheed Wallace 0.330
    Arron Afflalo 0.242
    Kwame Brown 0.218
     
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    And the 2007-08 Pistons; you can see how many of them are not as good this year as they were last year. By the way, Chauncey Billup's latest 2008-09 rating with the Nuggets is .859, so he is down too.

    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    Quality of Players
    2007-08 REGULAR SEASON

    Chauncey Billups 0.930
    Rasheed Wallace 0.793
    Amir Johnson 0.761
    Richard Hamilton 0.734
    Tayshaun Prince 0.724
    Rodney Stuckey 0.648
    Antonio McDyess 0.648
    Jason Maxiell 0.620
    Ronald Murray† 0.586
    Jarvis Hayes 0.531
    Arron Afflalo 0.486


    DETROIT PISTONS
    REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
    Quantity of Players
    2007-08 REGULAR SEASON

    Chauncey Billups 2188.85
    Tayshaun Prince 1714.30
    Rasheed Wallace 1710.55
    Richard Hamilton 1673.60
    Antonio McDyess 1394.10
    Jason Maxiell 1063.90
    Jarvis Hayes 675.60
    Rodney Stuckey 627.05
    Amir Johnson 530.35
    Arron Afflalo 407.35
    Ronald Murray† 203.25


    DETROIT PISTONS
    DEFENDING SUBRATING
    Tracked and Hidden Defending
    2007-08 REGULAR SEASON

    Amir Johnson 0.468
    Rasheed Wallace 0.453
    Antonio McDyess 0.337
    Tayshaun Prince 0.335
    Arron Afflalo 0.275
    Rodney Stuckey 0.270
    Chauncey Billups 0.264
    Jason Maxiell 0.245
    Richard Hamilton 0.185
    Jarvis Hayes 0.151
    Ronald Murray† 0.124
     

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