Dirk or KG?

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  1. wolverine30

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    if you were a GM, who would you pick Dirk or KG
     
  2. Marvinmartian

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    I'd go Dirk, because he's proven he can get his team to the next level, as well as being the most unguardable 1 on 1 player in the league. If his defense improves as much as it did last year this year, and his assist's get better, he'll be even more of an MVP candidate than he was last year.KG, while immensely talented, isn't quite the team leader he should be...that team has had talent up there in Minny, but he's yet to make a significant playoff push, without Cassell and Latrell.I'ts close, but I think Dirk takes it right now.
     
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    I'll take KG. While its true he has limited playoff success, he has never had the teams that dirk has. Dirk is lucky enough to play omn a team whose owner isn;t worried about shelling out buxkets of cash to get talent.Dirk while he did show something in this years playoff he is still to soft! He went missing in the finals and let Wade own. When he should have been carrying the team he was turned into a spectator and watched the heat take his title (and it was the Mav's to lose)KG has never really had the help he deserves, sure he got spree, but that was when Latrell was well past his prime, same goes for Cassell (Although Sam has made a revival in LA). KG can dominate games AT BOTH ENDS!! Thats a rare thing now days when the emphasis is on scoring. Dirk's Defense is suspect at best!KG by a jump hook and a blocked shot [​IMG]
     
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    Umm, you severely underrate Dirks defense...while he won't ever be considered Big Ben, he definately isn't the same Dirk on defense from a few years ago.And what does it matter what team you play on...either you have the ability to lead a team or you don't.Alot of those Minny teams were really good, and that year they went to the West Finals, Cassell and Latrell played a big role in that...I wouldn't say either was past their prime, not at that time.Alot of people will take KG without even thinking about this...but Dirk, even with all the talent around him, has still managed to put up massive numbers, scoring, rebounding, and his blocks and assists keep getting better and better...he's more of an offensive nightmare than KG is.And as for the Finals, it's easy to have to stand on the side and watch if the Heat gameplan for you not to be able to do anything...He should have shown up for the series, but the Heat had a hand in that, and the rest of team, as good as it is, didn't step up enough to compesate for it.
     
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    I dont think people will say that KG is better without thinking. I think being a MAVS fan your going to say Dirk, without thinking. No-one would say that KG has had as much help as Dirk!!! No way!! I think Dirk is a great player and Yes his d has improved but he's still no KG!! All defensive team, DPOY candidate. KG is better on D Dirk is better jumpshooter KG is better on the block, Dirk is better off the dribble, KG is a better rebounder/blocker (not by a huge amount but still better) Overall KG is a better player and if I were a GM he'd be my picl!
     
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    I'd still go with KG. KG is the better rebounder, shotblocker, defender, passer, and inside scorer, and he has a better post game. He is just an overall stud. I know Dirk can stretch defenses out, and he scores more points, but gimme KG plz and thankyou.
     
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    I don't see where people would go with dirk. Other than shooting and perhaps leadership, KG wins in basically everything. Maybe health too. KG's knees need to strengthen.
     
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    I would pick Kevin Garnett. I believe part of the reason why Dirk Nowitzki does so well is the Dallas system. The reason why Kevin Garnett can't take Minnesota to the next level is the Minnesota system and roster. When they had a good roster in 2004, the Wolves flourished.That said, on another team, Kevin Garnett brings leadership. He brings agressiveness. Power. Agility. inside and mid-level scoring ability. Rebounding. Defense. The whole package. There's not much to say besides he's more versatile than Dirk.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blaze @ Sep 4 2006, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would pick Kevin Garnett. I believe part of the reason why Dirk Nowitzki does so well is the Dallas system. The reason why Kevin Garnett can't take Minnesota to the next level is the Minnesota system and roster. When they had a good roster in 2004, the Wolves flourished.That said, on another team, Kevin Garnett brings leadership. He brings agressiveness. Power. Agility. inside and mid-level scoring ability. Rebounding. Defense. The whole package. There's not much to say besides he's more versatile than Dirk.</div>Garnett leads to first round exits, first round " i forgot to take over", first round disappointments. Not to mention Dirk owned Kg when they matched up. 33/16 in a sweep is a demolition.Dirk can take over whenever he wants, kg and taking over do not fit together. Seiously it's like he's afraid to take over anymore, i remember this season against the sixers garnett didn't take a shot in the 4th untill the 1 minute mark left in the 4th. Pathetic.Kg's probably the more skilled player but i'm taking dirk as the leading player of my franchise because he can lead his team and isnt afraid to take over.
     
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    Pretty hard comparsion, but Garnetts a much more talented player, but Dirks just a better player, he led his team the finals, he improved his D for his team, and overall Dirks a great player, and a way better leader then Garnett. Garnett was better 2 years ago, but not now, Dirk takes this one.
     
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    This is a REALLY hard arguement.Give me KG here. He is a far better low post scorer and can shoot the midrange, while Dirk is an amazing shooter but not as good down low. Because of this KG is more efficient in terms of %. KG is a F-A-R better rebounder and passer (he even avewraged 6APG in 02-03!). He is also the much better defender.Now, the thing that makes this really close is clutch ability and leadership. KG has done some amazing things with getting team to first round, but has never gotten past that point without someone else being the leader. Dirk, despite having an amazing supporting cast, got to NBA finals as the leader, hitting some VERY clutch shots and had a shootout in OT and 4th quarter with Wade in game 5 of the Finals. But because KG is so well freakishly well rounded and can totally carry a team in regular season, I pick KG. But Dirk is better clutch player and always shows up and leads in playoffs.
     
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    Clutch ability and leadership lead you to take KG over Dirk?When has KG ever had to be clutch? When has he led his team to anything?Take away what happened in the Finals, and Dirk was one of the most clutch players in the league last year and in the playoffs.
     
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    Kg is not clutch. Never was. It was Cassell that was clutch at end of games and without Cassell Garnett shows the things he can't do for Minnesota. Garnett is better as the second option or co-first option. Dirk is the man and though he struggles sometimes they go back to him and he led Dallas to the finals.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Sep 10 2006, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Clutch ability and leadership lead you to take KG over Dirk?When has KG ever had to be clutch? When has he led his team to anything?Take away what happened in the Finals, and Dirk was one of the most clutch players in the league last year and in the playoffs.</div>When did I say KG was more clutch? I said what makes this debate close is how Dirk is much more clutch and lead team throughout playoffs.
     
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    The only time I remember KG being clutch and having that killer instinct was against the kings in game 7. Dirk to me is a better franchise player because he's proven he can be the go to guy and can lead his team places. KG is the ideal second option.And guys, Dirk completly destroyed KG and the T pups when they matched up. Dirk's passing ability whilst not on kg's level is great.
     
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    I'll take KG, he may not be as good a shooter as Dirk, but I like his post play and that baseline fallaway. Give him some teammates for a change, and maybe he'll show us something.
     
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    KG averages 20 and 13, along with 5 assists per. He has better D. Dirk is a better shooter, but that's it. I would never pick Dirk over KG.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 12 2006, 02:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>KG averages 20 and 13, along with 5 assists per. He has better D. Dirk is a better shooter, but that's it. I would never pick Dirk over KG.</div>KG gets a lot of points off rebounds. He is not a go to player like Dirk. Dirk is a matchup nightmare and is the reason the spurs lost. They had to put a guard on Dirk and go small because of that. I don't think they would do the same against Garnett.
     
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    Yeah. Dirk creates a lot of matchup problems because he can play every position except point guard. When Garnett can only play Center, PF and SF.
     
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    Right now, I would have to take Dirk. While Garnett is loads better on Defense, I still gotta choose Dirk. He has an amazing turn around, fade away jump shot, that is virtually unblockable without fouling him because he is a 7-foot beast! He can play basically any position except for point, and can be a playmaker if that is what the team needs him to be.
     

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