Dirk Sniping

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  1. Ghost of Jason Collins

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    http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162008/sport...7923.htm?page=2

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Mavs superstar Dirk Nowitzki said he's afraid of a fractured locker room and appeared to take a shot at George, saying in Europe this would never happen.

    "Over here it's not promoted as a team sport the way it is in Europe," Nowitzki said. "Here it's always individually based. Devean is looking out for himself. That's what you're used to over here."</div>
     
  2. Mamba

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    Shut up, Dirk. This isn't over there, this is America. Your idiot organization gave George the right to a no-trade clause, so he had every right to use it. He was looking out for his personal interest. It's the common theory of social Darwinism, survival of the fittest. George was looking out for himself, good for him for doing it. If the Mavericks wanted Kidd that bad, I'm sure they could easily string together another deal.
     
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    Hey Dirk, it's not a sure thing that your team will be significantly better with Kidd anyway.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shut up, Dirk. This isn't over there, this is America. Your idiot organization gave George the right to a no-trade clause, so he had every right to use it. He was looking out for his personal interest. It's the common theory of social Darwinism, survival of the fittest. George was looking out for himself, good for him for doing it. If the Mavericks wanted Kidd that bad, I'm sure they could easily string together another deal.</div>
    Can't say I blame Dirk for being vocal...also it helps me keep hope that we''l work this out...
    No way they can do anything in the playoffs with a lockeroom that's obviously fractured.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shut up, Dirk. This isn't over there, this is America. Your idiot organization gave George the right to a no-trade clause, so he had every right to use it. He was looking out for his personal interest. It's the common theory of social Darwinism, survival of the fittest. George was looking out for himself, good for him for doing it. If the Mavericks wanted Kidd that bad, I'm sure they could easily string together another deal.</div>

    To be an effective team, self motivation some times needs to take a back seat. Nothing wrong with a team leader stating as much.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Feb 17 2008, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shut up, Dirk. This isn't over there, this is America. Your idiot organization gave George the right to a no-trade clause, so he had every right to use it. He was looking out for his personal interest. It's the common theory of social Darwinism, survival of the fittest. George was looking out for himself, good for him for doing it. If the Mavericks wanted Kidd that bad, I'm sure they could easily string together another deal.</div>
    Can't say I blame Dirk for being vocal...also it helps me keep hope that we''l work this out...
    No way they can do anything in the playoffs with a lockeroom that's obviously fractured.
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    I TOTALLY agree with Black Mamba. Dirk is the last person who should be vocal or point any fingers. This is the same guy who punked out of the finals and the so call MVP who was bullied by Captain Jack last year.

    This team has been coming up short for a while and this has been way before the George situation. So fractured or not this team has had problems.

    As BM said if they wanted this trade to happen it will but it seems like things are not going well.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shut up, Dirk. This isn't over there, this is America. Your idiot organization gave George the right to a no-trade clause, so he had every right to use it. He was looking out for his personal interest. It's the common theory of social Darwinism, survival of the fittest. George was looking out for himself, good for him for doing it. If the Mavericks wanted Kidd that bad, I'm sure they could easily string together another deal.</div>
    Actually Dirk is doing the right thing. 11 guys in that locker room are ringless and want to get better while George has the rings but is worried about his money more than his team. It's not a no trade clause for the 100 times, it is bird rights.

    If he was concerned with winning so much we could easily ship him off right away to a Golden State or someone else for cheap.
     
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    Well, Dirk can speak out about it, but he isn't doing the situation any better. If anything, he's fracturing the locker room more. George had a contractual right to use his clause, and he did.

    Dirk needs to realize that, and keep his mouth shut about it...as the leader of this team. He needs to talk to Cuban and see if there is any other way to get Kidd, because I'm sure there is.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, Dirk can speak out about it, but he isn't doing the situation any better. If anything, he's fracturing the locker room more. George had a contractual right to use his clause, and he did.

    Dirk needs to realize that, and keep his mouth shut about it...as the leader of this team. He needs to talk to Cuban and see if there is any other way to get Kidd, because I'm sure there is.</div>
    As the leader, maybe he had a talk with the team and this is their nudge to George that the door is open.

    There is other ways to get Kidd but this was the deal that both teams agreed too.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Feb 17 2008, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shut up, Dirk. This isn't over there, this is America. Your idiot organization gave George the right to a no-trade clause, so he had every right to use it. He was looking out for his personal interest. It's the common theory of social Darwinism, survival of the fittest. George was looking out for himself, good for him for doing it. If the Mavericks wanted Kidd that bad, I'm sure they could easily string together another deal.</div>
    Actually Dirk is doing the right thing. 11 guys in that locker room are ringless and want to get better while George has the rings but is worried about his money more than his team. It's not a no trade clause for the 100 times, it is bird rights.

    If he was concerned with winning so much we could easily ship him off right away to a Golden State or someone else for cheap.
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    There is nothing wrong with George doing what's best for himself. The same way it's nothing wrong with Mavs doing what's best for the organization. Sure it doesn't make sense but it's his right and he has the right to it.

    Plus there is a reason that those guys in the locker room are ring less. I notice something about Dirk. He likes to a lot of talking but can't seem to ever back it up. I remember him going off at Terry in 2005 playoffs against the Suns. He was upset that Nash was out playing Terry.


    Now this is the same guy that said they gave away the Championship to the Heat. D Wade comments is exactly true about Dirk.

    <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">"Dirk said that they gave us the championship last year," Wade told the Palm Beach Post:. "But he's the reason they lost the championship because he wasn't the leader he's supposed to be in the closing moments."</span>

    My point he hasn't been much of a leader so why should he start now??
     
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    What both teams agreed to is irrelevant because George has the power to veto the trade. They could've agreed to the biggest trade in league history, and if it wasn't in George's best interest...then he has every right to reject it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What both teams agreed to is irrelevant because George has the power to veto the trade. They could've agreed to the biggest trade in league history, and if it wasn't in George's best interest...then he has every right to reject it.</div>
    When you are not wanted on the team anymore is a good sign to pack it up.
     
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    Who says he isn't wanted? Because Dirk came out and said something? They're not idiots on the team, they understand George's situation.
     
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    Why should George care about whether his former employer is improving itself or not?

    "Taking one for the team" doesn't really work if you're not part of the team anymore.
     
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    Blocking the trade does not benefit George unless he improves his stock between now and the end of the season.

    That's unlikely if his teammates, bosses and the fans all hate him.

    It's also unlikely because he sucks and he's playing like shit.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Feb 17 2008, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who says he isn't wanted? Because Dirk came out and said something? They're not idiots on the team, they understand George's situation.</div>
    Well, when you don't play and you are traded, it's sometimes a sign of not wanted.
     
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    Well, the irony is that Mr. George will be playing "over there" next year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 17 2008, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Blocking the trade does not benefit George unless he improves his stock between now and the end of the season.

    That's unlikely if his teammates, bosses and the fans all hate him.

    It's also unlikely because he sucks and he's playing like shit.</div>


    True it doesn't make sense but he still has a right to do it but the deal seems to be dead and either way George will be the scape goat if the Mavs come up short again in the playoffs.

    Dirk should actually thank George. For the last two years fingers have pointed at him. The Mavs were not winning a championship this year with or without Kidd but at least now when they do get knock out they can blame George for distracting the team.

    Also if some way the Mavs do win then will they thank George for not letting them make a huge mistake??
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Feb 17 2008, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also if some way the Mavs do win then will they thank George for not letting them make a huge mistake??</div>

    Or what if they are not emotionally tough yet again? A lot has to fall on Georges shoulders then.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Feb 17 2008, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 17 2008, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Blocking the trade does not benefit George unless he improves his stock between now and the end of the season.

    That's unlikely if his teammates, bosses and the fans all hate him.

    It's also unlikely because he sucks and he's playing like shit.</div>


    True it doesn't make sense but he still has a right to do it but the deal seems to be dead and either way George will be the scape goat if the Mavs come up short again in the playoffs.

    Dirk should actually thank George. For the last two years fingers have pointed at him. The Mavs were not winning a championship this year with or without Kidd but at least now when they do get knock out they can blame George for distracting the team.

    Also if some way the Mavs do win then will they thank George for not letting them make a huge mistake??
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    He'll be a hero. It's probably what he's fantasizing about.

    Unfortunately it won't happen because

    1. The Mavericks are not going to win doodly dick.

    2. He sucks.
     

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