does anyone think the Lakers can get to postseason?? I personally would like to see them back where they belong - challenging. But I just cant see it, unless Big Phil can work wonders with a small talent (excluding Kobe of course). What do you think??
I agree that they won't be big in the west. But they should be more fun to watch/hate than last year. Who knows, nobody thought that Seattle would amount to much last year and we know what happened with them.
This should be in the Lakers forum. Alson since when is going the distance considerd making the playoffs? I guess different people have different standards.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">This should be in the Lakers forum. Alson since when is going the distance considerd making the playoffs? I guess different people have different standards.</div> I think he put it here to get various opinions, if it goes in the Laker Forum every answer will be YES they will make the playoffs. Going distance and making the playoffs is a little confusing. There is no chance the Lakers team is good enough to win the title at this point, but they definitely have the players to be in the post-season.
I doubt the lagirls will get to the playoffs, next year they will, but comp. is too tough for them this year and they just wont.
Maybe Kobe-Phil will spark something big not just for him but for the team also...I`m rooting for them. (-;
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">I doubt the lagirls will get to the playoffs, next year they will, but comp. is too tough for them this year and they just wont.</div> And I guess the sorry queens will make it. Who do they have besides Bibby and Peja? I really dont think Peja is good. So lets say Bibby and thats it. They are wack.
I agree with the host, I would love to see the Lakers back in the playoffs, but the competition in west is so great, i just can't see them back. BTW: haven't checked this site in a long time, this new layout is sick.
Phil Jackson has never won a championship without at least two stars, so that is out of the picture. As good as Lamar Odom is, he's no Pip. I don't see why everyone is so hyped about the addition of Kwame Brown. He wasn't motivated by MJ, so why would he be motivated by the guy who played a role in making MJ the player that he was? They are so desperate that they tried to bring Tyron Lue back. I see this team struggling from the start, getting hot before the break, and being out of the race early.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see why everyone is so hyped about the addition of Kwame Brown. He wasn't motivated by MJ, so why would he be motivated by the guy who played a role in making MJ the player that he was? </div> How can you even begin to compare Michael Jordan's coaching savvy with Phil Jackson's? MJ has NEVER been a coach and really has no idea how to get into a player's head and make them want to change for the better. Only a well seasoned coach (like Phil Jackson) knows how to do that.
Read what I wrote again. I was not talking about coaching, but motivational skills. How could anyone not be motivated by MJ? Pip became who he was because of MJ. Steve Kerr, and Tony Kukoc hit big shots because MJ believed in them. I am not talking about coaching. I'm talking about leadership. Thus far nothing has seemed to motivate Kwame. The man got suspended during the first playoff run of his career. That tells a lot about him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">Read what I wrote again. I was not talking about coaching, but motivational skills. How could anyone not be motivated by MJ? Pip became who he was because of MJ. Steve Kerr, and Tony Kukoc hit big shots because MJ believed in them. I am not talking about coaching. I'm talking about leadership. Thus far nothing has seemed to motivate Kwame. The man got suspended during the first playoff run of his career. That tells a lot about him.</div> Maybe it had to do with Kwame Brown being straight out of high school and still immature at the time. Also his up bringing probably had a lot to do with it. He grew up watching his father beat him and his mom. I'm sure Michael Jordan chastising him and slapping him brought back the deamons of his childhood. I'm not sold on the trade yet either, and I was a big fan of Caron Butler, hard to see a player like him go. The key player for the Lakers, isn't going to be Kwame though. It's going to be Lamar Odom offensively and defensively. On offense he is going to have to mange the game and initiate the flow of the Triangle. On defense he will be the 'rover' and will be responsible for help defense and closing out on his man. The main issue for Odom will be learning to move without the ball. He's never really grasped the concept of it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phantom Balla:</div><div class="quote_post">And I guess the sorry queens will make it. Who do they have besides Bibby and Peja? I really dont think Peja is good. So lets say Bibby and thats it. They are wack.</div> Haha. I wonder do u actually follow basketball? U know nothing going by that post. The kings will make the playoffs. Even most Lagirls fans would agree with that (thats if they know anything and are honest). Peja can shoot, and moves well for a 6'9'' guy, but I agree he is over-rated but he is still an excellent player to have on your team. Well lets see, other than Bibby, they have Brad Miller (All-star), Bonzi Wells (borderline all-star in some peoples opinions), Shareef Abdur Rahim (All-star), and of course Peja (All-star). Bibby deserves to be an All-star but probably wont get it because flash is more popular than steady. I honestly can't believe u made that post "other than Bibby who have they got" that is just a plain dumb thing to say. Have u not been listening to whats happening at all? I'd say you're about 12 or something based on that post. They have got Bonzi and SAR now, and u say who else have they got
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post"> Haha. I wonder do u actually follow basketball? U know nothing going by that post. The kings will make the playoffs. Even most Lagirls fans would agree with that (thats if they know anything and are honest). Peja can shoot, and moves well for a 6'9'' guy, but I agree he is over-rated but he is still an excellent player to have on your team. Well lets see, other than Bibby, they have Brad Miller (All-star), Bonzi Wells (borderline all-star in some peoples opinions), Shareef Abdur Rahim (All-star), and of course Peja (All-star). Bibby deserves to be an All-star but probably wont get it because flash is more popular than steady. I honestly can't believe u made that post "other than Bibby who have they got" that is just a plain dumb thing to say. Have u not been listening to whats happening at all? I'd say you're about 12 or something based on that post. They have got Bonzi and SAR now, and u say who else have they got </div> Have to agree, the Kings will make the playoffs, they are pretty much a lock to be a top 8 team in the West. I think the Kings are the favorite to win the Pacific division, with Amare Stoudemire out for 4 months. Even before the injury, the Kings had a legit chance at the division crown. They still don't have a good defense, but it's going to be hard to outscore Sacramento. Everyone on their starting five is capable of scoring 20 points and they bring fire power off the bench from the inside and outside. Brad Miller is one of the most underrated centers in the league, and arguably the best player on the Kings. The only thing holding the Kings back is injuries. They always seem to lose key players and it prevents them from getting deep in the playoffs. Last year the Kings won 50 games even though Brad Miller missed 26 games, Peja Stoyakovic missed 16 games, and they lost three veteran players, Vlade Divac, Chris Webber, and Doug Christie.
Both norcal teams will make the playoffs this year and both socal teams won't..... I think this might be the first time in.... never?!? Honestly though, I don't see the Lakers making it to the post-season. As a matter of fact, I like my clip's chances on making it moreso than the Lakers.. but that might just be bias talking
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Have to agree, the Kings will make the playoffs, they are pretty much a lock to be a top 8 team in the West. I think the Kings are the favorite to win the Pacific division, with Amare Stoudemire out for 4 months. Even before the injury, the Kings had a legit chance at the division crown. They still don't have a good defense, but it's going to be hard to outscore Sacramento. Everyone on their starting five is capable of scoring 20 points and they bring fire power off the bench from the inside and outside. Brad Miller is one of the most underrated centers in the league, and arguably the best player on the Kings. The only thing holding the Kings back is injuries. They always seem to lose key players and it prevents them from getting deep in the playoffs. Last year the Kings won 50 games even though Brad Miller missed 26 games, Peja Stoyakovic missed 16 games, and they lost three veteran players, Vlade Divac, Chris Webber, and Doug Christie.</div> Finally someone who knos what they're talking about, and I hope the kings can stay clear of injuries, which I think they will. Yes defense is a very weak point but Bonzi is an under-rated defender and a good rebounder. He got 8 or 9 rebounds against the clips the other noght, I know u cant really judge going by that but still. Jason Hart is a good back-up and a good defender, but we need team defense not just a few players. And yes teams are going to find it hard to out-score us.
They were doing good before Kobe was injured. They had 4th or 5th seed at one time. I can't see them being higher than 7th seed unless Kobe, Lamar, and Phil all work wonders.
I dont see the Lakers getting into the playoffs unless they all learn the triangle very quickly (which isnt very likely) and do what Phil wants them to do on defense. Lamar Odom also needs to step up, and so does Kwame Brown. I think they might suck in the beginning of the season, but they should get better as time progresses, maybe getting a playoff spot by a slim margin.
