Suprised nobody started the topic on here by now, but just wanted to see what everyone thought about it.My thoughts are..Of course the comments were in poor taste, but lets not forget that Imus is a radio host with a reputation of pushing the envelope, which is exactly why he has grown to be so popular, and this one time it happened to go too far. Imus reguarly takes shots at everyone, as it is part of his appeal. While I was listening to his rant, I don't think the comments were intended to be racist, or descriminatory. If you listened to his entire rant, he was trying to make the point that the Rutgers team had a certain tough look to them as shown by their Tattoos and although it wasn't stated, their reputation of being agressive and tough, especially on Defense, I'm sure had alot to do with it. Whereas Tennessee looked 'cute' (The heavy majority of the Tennessee's team is also African-American btw). Sid Rosenberg was actually the person who turned the discussion negatively when he called them 'Hardcore Hos' first to which Don Imus fired the now-famous 'Nappy Headed Hos' line. He used a very poor choice of words in an attempt to stress his point that the Rutgers team looked 'tough'. That is all it was. I'm not condoning what he said as it is clearly wrong to call someone a ho, or a nappy-headed ho, especially someone who you have never even met, but at the same time I don't think this is a Michael Richards type situation where he intended to be harmful with his comments. Just listen to exactly what was said - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9BjB7Bzr0
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 12 2007, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Suprised nobody started the topic on here by now, but just wanted to see what everyone thought about it.My thoughts are..Of course the comments were in poor taste, but lets not forget that Imus is a radio host with a reputation of pushing the envelope, which is exactly why he has grown to be so popular, and this one time it happened to go too far. Imus reguarly takes shots at everyone, as it is part of his appeal. While I was listening to his rant, I don't think the comments were intended to be racist, or descriminatory. If you listened to his entire rant, he was trying to make the point that the Rutgers team had a certain tough look to them as shown by their Tattoos and although it wasn't stated, their reputation of being agressive and tough, especially on Defense, I'm sure had alot to do with it. Whereas Tennessee looked 'cute' (The heavy majority of the Tennessee's team is also African-American btw). Sid Rosenberg was actually the person who turned the discussion negatively when he called them 'Hardcore Hos' first to which Don Imus fired the now-famous 'Nappy Headed Hos' line. He used a very poor choice of words in an attempt to stress his point that the Rutgers team looked 'tough'. That is all it was. I'm not condoning what he said as it is clearly wrong to call someone a ho, or a nappy-headed ho, especially someone who you have never even met, but at the same time I don't think this is a Michael Richards type situation where he intended to be harmful with his comments. Just listen to exactly what was said - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9BjB7Bzr0</div>No it's not. Not in our culture.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 12 2007, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's been fired by NBC and CBS. He's done.</div>It's only a matter of time before Sirius or XM offers him a gig much like they did for Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony (Who's Sex in a Cathedral Stunt was much worse IMO). I wouldn't say he's done at all. Not to mention he still gets his contract paid out by all these people 'firing' him.I do think it is sad that Imus got fired over this however though, as a suspension was a fair punishment for his comments and I don't feel it warranted a firing. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No it's not. Not in our culture.</div>Somewhat True, but the double-standard of our politically-correct society should have made him know it wouldn't be acceptable. 95% of the stuff that comes out of Many African-American Comedians mouths is worse though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 12 2007, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Suprised nobody started the topic on here by now, but just wanted to see what everyone thought about it.My thoughts are..Of course the comments were in poor taste, but lets not forget that Imus is a radio host with a reputation of pushing the envelope, which is exactly why he has grown to be so popular, and this one time it happened to go too far. Imus reguarly takes shots at everyone, as it is part of his appeal. While I was listening to his rant, I don't think the comments were intended to be racist, or descriminatory. If you listened to his entire rant, he was trying to make the point that the Rutgers team had a certain tough look to them as shown by their Tattoos and although it wasn't stated, their reputation of being agressive and tough, especially on Defense, I'm sure had alot to do with it. Whereas Tennessee looked 'cute' (The heavy majority of the Tennessee's team is also African-American btw). Sid Rosenberg was actually the person who turned the discussion negatively when he called them 'Hardcore Hos' first to which Don Imus fired the now-famous 'Nappy Headed Hos' line. He used a very poor choice of words in an attempt to stress his point that the Rutgers team looked 'tough'. That is all it was. I'm not condoning what he said as it is clearly wrong to call someone a ho, or a nappy-headed ho, especially someone who you have never even met, but at the same time I don't think this is a Michael Richards type situation where he intended to be harmful with his comments. Just listen to exactly what was said - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9BjB7Bzr0</div>I basically agree with everything you said. He didn't say it in a hateful way at all. And it's getting to the point where it's pissing me off. What the hell happened to equality and a fair playing field? It seems that we have huge double standards when it comes to treating each race. It's gotten to the point where minorities are equal but want the full upper hand in society through spoon-fed benefits.I am sick and tired of hearing people say how it's wrong for white people to say racist things when minorities (African-Americans, gays, Jewish people, Asians, Mexicans) go around using 'cracker' 'honky' 'wetback' 'chink' 'makaka' etc. like it's any other word! Notice how I didn't feel the need to put asterisks in any of those words. Quite simply, those racist words have become a part of society that has basically been accepted as long as they come from the mouth of another minority. You might get a shocked reaction for a few seconds but you're not going to get a media firestorm that lasts days about it. Yet, use a derogatory comment AGAINST a minority, you're suddenly deemed as this hateful man. If you don't want derogatory terms used, don't use them yourself.If Imus were black, the Rutgers team all white, and Imus called the team a bunch of "blonde pony-tailed hos" would we care? Of course not. It's cause the media and dicks like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with nothing better to do since the Civil Rights movement, overblowing everything and making it a big fucking deal.Mr. Jackson and Mr. Sharpton, we thank you for your efforts during the Civil Rights movement when you actually had a cause that was worth fighting for. You both were valiant in standing up for the African-American race (and all minorities as a whole) when segregation and true racism actually still existed at a national scale. But now you're both trying to pick fights where there is no necessity to start one. The country isn't anywhere as close to as being racist as it once was. Sure, stereotyping and insensitive comments still exist but grow up and stop acting like you still need your mother to breast feed you. Just sit down and shut up.And seriously, there are already enough double-standards in favor of African-Americans/minorities (affirmative action, race based scholarships/government programs including scholarships for ILLEGAL immigrants). It's almost as if minorities believe that they should be put on a higher pedestal in every regard in American society. That is absolute bullshit. As a minority myself, it is embarrassing to be a minority since it has come to the point where we all claim we want equality and fairness but when those benefits are spoon-fed to us, we fail to capitalize on those benefits and complain that there simply aren't enough.End of rant.P.S. T-Pain uses "nappy boy" in Buy U A Drank. Media firestorm? Naaaaaaaah.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 12 2007, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 12 2007, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's been fired by NBC and CBS. He's done.</div>It's only a matter of time before Sirius or XM offers him a gig much like they did for Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony (Who's Sex in a Cathedral Stunt was much worse IMO). I wouldn't say he's done at all. Not to mention he still gets his contract paid out by all these people 'firing' him.I do think it is sad that Imus got fired over this however though, as a suspension was a fair punishment for his comments and I don't feel it warranted a firing. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No it's not. Not in our culture.</div>Somewhat True, but the double-standard of our politically-correct society should have made him know it wouldn't be acceptable. 95% of the stuff that comes out of Many African-American Comedians mouths is worse though. </div>There's this episode of The Office during Season 1 about diversity day. It's hilarious and totally true about the double-standards of speech. Michael Scott (Carrell) quotes Chris Rock's monologue and they have a diversity day for racial sensitivity.
My opinion- Imus says stuff like this all the time. It was stupid to say but not as big of a deal as people are making it. He should be suspended but fired is taking it overboard IMO. He will NEVER make a comment like this again and will be more careful if he still has a radio show just because of the bad press he's getting. I think that is enough of a warning for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 12 2007, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I basically agree with everything you said. He didn't say it in a hateful way at all. And it's getting to the point where it's pissing me off. What the hell happened to equality and a fair playing field? It seems that we have huge double standards when it comes to treating each race. It's gotten to the point where minorities are equal but want the full upper hand in society through spoon-fed benefits.I am sick and tired of hearing people say how it's wrong for white people to say racist things when minorities (African-Americans, gays, Jewish people, Asians, Mexicans) go around using 'cracker' 'honky' 'wetback' 'chink' 'makaka' etc. like it's any other word! Notice how I didn't feel the need to put asterisks in any of those words. Quite simply, those racist words have become a part of society that has basically been accepted as long as they come from the mouth of another minority. You might get a shocked reaction for a few seconds but you're not going to get a media firestorm that lasts days about it. Yet, use a derogatory comment AGAINST a minority, you're suddenly deemed as this hateful man. If you don't want derogatory terms used, don't use them yourself.If Imus were black, the Rutgers team all white, and Imus called the team a bunch of "blonde pony-tailed hos" would we care? Of course not. It's cause the media and dicks like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with nothing better to do since the Civil Rights movement, overblowing everything and making it a big fucking deal.Mr. Jackson and Mr. Sharpton, we thank you for your efforts during the Civil Rights movement when you actually had a cause that was worth fighting for. You both were valiant in standing up for the African-American race (and all minorities as a whole) when segregation and true racism actually still existed at a national scale. But now you're both trying to pick fights where there is no necessity to start one. The country isn't anywhere as close to as being racist as it once was. Sure, stereotyping and insensitive comments still exist but grow up and stop acting like you still need your mother to breast feed you. Just sit down and shut up.And seriously, there are already enough double-standards in favor of African-Americans/minorities (affirmative action, race based scholarships/government programs including scholarships for ILLEGAL immigrants). It's almost as if minorities believe that they should be put on a higher pedestal in every regard in American society. That is absolute bullshit. As a minority myself, it is embarrassing to be a minority since it has come to the point where we all claim we want equality and fairness but when those benefits are spoon-fed to us, we fail to capitalize on those benefits and complain that there simply aren't enough.End of rant.P.S. T-Pain uses "nappy boy" in Buy U A Drank. Media firestorm? Naaaaaaaah.</div>Pretty much, Don Imus being fired just shows the Double Standards of today's Politically Correct Society. An African-American like Chris Rock and many others can get up on stage and do nothing but make Racial Jokes and they are Considered Funny and make Millions of Dollars doing so and it is considered perfectly acceptable. But the Second a Caucasian says a thing about a member of another race or gender they are automatically considered Racist or a Sexist or a Bigot, even though in this case he clearly wasn't intending to be harmful by his comments.As for Affirmative Action and Race/Gender Based Scholarships, don't get me Started. They are things that are created for the sole purpose of bettering a certain group of people (At the expense of others). But you know there would be a ridiculous amount of media backlash should someone create a Caucasian-Only Scholarship which is the exact same thing, just for a different race. It's gotten to a point where those being discriminated against in today's society are the White Males. I hate to say it because I'm sure someone is going to accuse me of being a racist by saying that, but it's the absolute truth.
