Dunleavy???

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  1. Warriorfansnc93

    Warriorfansnc93 JBB JustBBall Member

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    20pts 5reb 3ast 4TO

    What is up with that? Good scoring, bad stats for a PG. I did not watch the game so tell me what happened with Dunleavy? He at least backed up his 24 pt night with a 20pt night. That is a plus. Good fg% too.
     
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    Well last night it just seemed as if Dunleavy and JRich couldn't catch or handle the ball what so ever. Both were going out of control and both were making terrible decisions. I remember Dunleavy having his back to the basket at about the free throw line, did all of these shakes or whatever lost balance and control and then like the ball went off somewhere else as he knew he was going to fall down. Then there was another time on a fast break i believe where Dunleavy was dribbling and he took off way too early since he wasn't under control very much and then after he took off he knew he wasn't going to be able to get to the rim so he threw it somewhere else, which i think was out of bounds or right to the other team. And Jason Richardson kept having the ball taken away also. He'd dribble it and it had a weird bounce or something and JRich would be headed one direction and the ball is back where he was a few seconds ago. Also JRich had the ball hitting his legs. Jrich needs to work on that, like the last possession of the game for the Warriors the ball went to JRich but his knee came through and knocked the ball away, giving the Warriors no hope to win the game. JRich has some trouble dribbling and controling the ball without getting his legs involved and knocking it away. I remember him dribbling it off his foot a couple of times when nobody was around him in previous games. But i guess he will only get better in that area, hopefully.
     
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    It's a well-known fact that J.rich doesnt have really good handles, but it's surprising that Dunleavy had as many turnovers as he did. Growing pains I guess... it's to be expected when he's playing PG for the first time. I say stick with him, because it's almost impossible to learn immediately how to be a good PG.
     
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    Clif25 JBB JustBBall Member

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    It just seemed that Dunleavy tried to do too much on some plays, yet just didn't have the legs or explosiveness to make those plays. This made him get out of control and make turnovers. I like seeing Dunleavy trying to make some plays. Maybe he'll be able to make those plays some day in the future.
     
  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    We'll see how he does tomorrow.
     
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    He just has to learn to try and not do too much and play within himself. That's when he is most effective. He'll make big plays eventually, and that time will come when he gets more maturity.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Same with Jrich basically. He's great if he doesn't try to act like Michael Jordan and try to dribble his way out of a double team and blow by the entire frontcourt himself.
     
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    Jrich, to me, is a worse dribbler than Dunleavy. He sometimes loses control of the ball even when he doesn't try to do too much and is just plain dribbling. He just needs more practice in game situations to give him confidence. Like Jim Barnett has pointed out several times this season, JR has gotten a lot more confident with his dribble going to the basket.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    You know who used to be out of control? Gilbert Arenas.

    Actually, does he still lead the league in turnovers?
     
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    I think Jrich has gotten alot better. I remember when they played out here in Denver. I was impressed his his crossover and trying to take it to the basket. Maybe I need to look at other players, but it almost looked like he was on the playground the way he was crossing over his guy. It did not always work, but he did not turn the ball over.
     
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    Jrich, looked pretty good dribbling down court with Kobe on him during the last Lakers game. He followed with a nice pass to Cardinal cutting down the lane for the dunk.
     
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    I say that; there's nothing to lose at this point of the season. I'd rather have Dunleavy and JRich trying to do too much than just be complaicent and just sit around, waiting for the ball and wait for a play to happen. If these guys are the "future" of this team i want to see them stand up and put up some great production like the players they are sought out to be. I just want to see what all these players are all about. So even if Dunleavy is terrible in the post and around the basket, i'd still want to see him posting up some guys down low since he has such great length. This would at least give them an idea of where they are compared to other players and what they need to do to get to where they want to be in the future. And it will also give them some good experience.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobeonfire:</div><div class="quote_post">Jrich, to me, is a worse dribbler than Dunleavy. He sometimes loses control of the ball even when he doesn't try to do too much and is just plain dribbling. He just needs more practice in game situations to give him confidence. Like Jim Barnett has pointed out several times this season, JR has gotten a lot more confident with his dribble going to the basket.</div>

    Remember that time, Jrich lost the ball to the Blazers while dribbling out the clock? OMG, you know how bad you have to be with the ball to lose it to the opposing team when there's no pressure on you?
     
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    Growing pains... like people in this thread have pointed out, Jrich has shown flashes of brilliance with his handles, and he will eventually be able to do that all the time.
     
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    http://www.detnews.com/2004/pistons/0403/07/sports-83983.htm

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Warriors second-year forward Mike Dunleavy and Coach Eric Musselman have been at odds all season. They had a bit of verbal joust last week. Here's a scaled-down version: During shoot-around Tuesday, Musselman pointed to a missed defensive assignment that Dunleavy had in a previous game. Dunleavy argued that he wasn't beaten on the play and that Musselman could check the film if he didn't believe him. Musselman then got angry and really went at him, saying he is a lousy defensive player. Dunleavy's response: "I feel the same way about your coaching." So what happens? Dunleavy goes off for 21 points and 20 rebounds in the game that night. Now that's coaching. </div>
     
  16. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I think we've got a similar article floating around on the forum.
     

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