<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">My NBA family is telling me most in the NBA are looking at the wrong guys when it comes to re-signing this summer. Most wonder if Cleveland's LeBron James and Denver's Carmelo Anthony will re-up with their respective teams. This is the first time a three-year player can sign an extension with their own club. If no new deal is signed before the end of their fifth season with the club, they can become unrestricted free agents. In this draft class, it would be in 2008. In reality, the man NBA America should watch out for is Heat star guard Dwyane Wade . Apparently, it's not a slam dunk that Wade will re-sign with the Heat after the postseason. And when you think about it, it makes sense. Center Shaquille O'Neal is near the end of his career. He's closer to retirement than he is to another championship. While Wade loves playing with Shaq -- what smart shooting guard not named Kobe Bryant wouldn't? -- he knows the big fella won't be around much longer. Wade wants to know what the long-term plans are for the Heat. The last thing Wade wants to do is sign and get stuck with a losing and rebuilding team. The best years of his career could potentially be wasted. The Heat aren't exactly a young team with a big upside. In fact, it's the opposite. The Heat -- with Shaq, Gary Payton , Alonzo Mourning and Antoine Walker -- aren't an old bunch, but their pregame meal does include sodium-free bacon and a chest X-ray. The other factor is how Wade plays. The commercial of him crashing to the floor is accurate. Wade, who plays above the rim, isn't guaranteed a long career because of a possible injury. No wonder Wade wants to win sooner than later. And Miami might not be the place for that to happen.</div> Source If Wade doesn't re-sign with Miami, and he wants to come to a championship contender, we could be that team in 2007. With Jameer Nelson, Dwight Howard and Wade all in their primes, we would be a very scary team. Dwyane Wade has been amazing this season and is slowly becoming one of the best players in the entire league. He is already used to playing with a dominant big man in Shaq and he is very unselfish. We could immitate what the Heat did with Shaq and Wade so that he would already know the offense. Another possibility would to bring Stan Van Gundy on board as an assistant coach since he knows how the Heat offense worked. This is really exciting and is making Otis Smith look like a genius for clearing up all that cap room.
Vince Carter was thinking of signing with Orlando also. Flash and VC on the same team with Dwight Howard.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting vcwannabe15:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince Carter was thinking of signing with Orlando also. Flash and VC on the same team with Dwight Howard.</div> Um... First of all, we wouldn't have enough money to do that. Second of all, we don't want Vince Carter. He asked to be traded her in 2004, and we said "no", and that was the right decision. Screw Vince Carter
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post"> If Wade doesn't re-sign with Miami, and he wants to come to a championship contender, we could be that team in 2007. With Jameer Nelson, Dwight Howard and Wade all in their primes, we would be a very scary team. Dwyane Wade has been amazing this season and is slowly becoming one of the best players in the entire league. He is already used to playing with a dominant big man in Shaq and he is very unselfish. We could immitate what the Heat did with Shaq and Wade so that he would already know the offense. Another possibility would to bring Stan Van Gundy on board as an assistant coach since he knows how the Heat offense worked. This is really exciting and is making Otis Smith look like a genius for clearing up all that cap room.</div> Or, even better, you could immitate what the Lakers did and win three championships in a row. And you know that would work better than what the Heat are doing now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">Source If Wade doesn't re-sign with Miami, and he wants to come to a championship contender, we could be that team in 2007. With Jameer Nelson, Dwight Howard and Wade all in their primes, we would be a very scary team. Dwyane Wade has been amazing this season and is slowly becoming one of the best players in the entire league. He is already used to playing with a dominant big man in Shaq and he is very unselfish. We could immitate what the Heat did with Shaq and Wade so that he would already know the offense. Another possibility would to bring Stan Van Gundy on board as an assistant coach since he knows how the Heat offense worked. This is really exciting and is making Otis Smith look like a genius for clearing up all that cap room.</div> Don't forget that Shaq wants to be part owner of the Magic. If him and Dwade are really that close than I say we give him part ownership immediately when he retires(which will likely be after next year or the year after). <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AKIRA:</div><div class="quote_post">Or, even better, you could immitate what the Lakers did and win three championships in a row. And you know that would work better than what the Heat are doing now.</div> We wouldn't have Kobe or Shaq, so it's pointless to imitate what they are doing. In case you haven't realized it yet, Wade and Kobe have completely different games. Wade takes it to the hole way more often and Kobe shoots a lot more farther out. ------------ I agree with Chuck about VC, I don't want him, to be honest with you the only superstars in that class that I would want is Dirk(no way in hell we get him though) or Wade/Pierce, both are reasonable to get.
I highly doubt Wade will leave Miami. They will most likely re-sign him after this season and Shaq will probasbly stay around for 2-3 more years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">We wouldn't have Kobe or Shaq, so it's pointless to imitate what they are doing. In case you haven't realized it yet, Wade and Kobe have completely different games. Wade takes it to the hole way more often and Kobe shoots a lot more farther out.</div> yes but kobe used to take it to the hole alot more often when they were winning their championships, it would also be a good idea because they won 3 championships with their style of play. the heat have not won a ring with their style of play, although they might this year, but the lakers won three, in a row, doesnt that count for something.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AKIRA:</div><div class="quote_post">yes but kobe used to take it to the hole alot more often when they were winning their championships, it would also be a good idea because they won 3 championships with their style of play. the heat have not won a ring with their style of play, although they might this year, but the lakers won three, in a row, doesnt that count for something.</div> We are 2 completely different types of teams. I still don't understand why you are comparing our team to the Lakers when they won 3 years in a row. Dwight isn't anywhere and won't be anywhere near as dominant as Shaq. We have an offensive minded SF, rather than the defensive minded Rick Fox. Our PG puts points up in a hurry, unlike Derek Fisher. I just don't see anything in common other than the fact that we would have a superstar SG and a dominant big man(although Dwight is a PF). I mean would you compare the Rockets to the Lakers? Honestly a better comparison would be the Spurs. Great PF(Dwight/Duncan), slashing SG(Ginobili/Wade), and score 1st PG(Parker/Jameer). It doesn' matter because we likely won't get Wade.
I really doubt it will happen, and i dont think that Jameer is goin to be that great. He is tiny, which isn't a problem except for he isn't a great shooter or penetrater. He is an ok pg but really should be a quality bench player. IMO
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">I really doubt it will happen, and i dont think that Jameer is goin to be that great. He is tiny, which isn't a problem except for he isn't a great shooter or penetrater. He is an ok pg but really should be a quality bench player. IMO</div> Ask anyone, I'm normally not a Jameer backer. I'm probably the most negative Magic fan on Jameer. To say he's not a good penetrator is wrong though. He gets to the rim at will. He actually is a very good shooter as well. He shot 48.3% including 42.4% from 3 land. I'm not expecting Jameer to be at Parkers level or be an all-star or anything, but I could see him avg around 15-17 pts and 6-7 assists in his prime.
^^Thats maybe what i was thinking, but i keep seeing people talking about the magic's future and jameer is always slated as a beast or something. And he can't penetrate at will. He is rarely guarded by the teams best defender, and if it was AT WILL then his numbers would be much higher. 15 and 6 could be a possibility but if i'm the magic im looking for a better pg than him. Sorry about the shooting thing, but my point is that it's not like he is goin to kill you with his J. I know he is a good shooter just not as good as a lot of pg. And shooting percentage means pretty much nothing
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Thats maybe what i was thinking, but i keep seeing people talking about the magic's future and jameer is always slated as a beast or something. And he can't penetrate at will. He is rarely guarded by the teams best defender, and if it was AT WILL then his numbers would be much higher. 15 and 6 could be a possibility but if i'm the magic im looking for a better pg than him.</div> He started off the bench this year. Then he was hurt after we traded Francis and if you check this thread.... http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50901 that I updated after every game after that trade, you would see Jameer's numbers while he was starting... Jameer Nelson- 22 games, 29 mpg(638), 16.05 ppg(353), 2.86 rpg(63), 5.55 apg(122), 2 TO pg(44), 51.19% FG (137-268), 43.64% 3 pt(24-55), 83.33% FT(55-66) So as you can see he avg 12 shots a game and look at the FG %'s. He was getting the rim at will. I was shocked to see how much he was doing it. He is a PG though, so he doesn't look for his shot as much as he can(hence the 5.55 apg). How many PG's in the league get 15 and 6? I don't see why we would look for a better PG, when there aren't many PG's out there that can get those numbers. EDIT: <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post"> Sorry about the shooting thing, but my point is that it's not like he is goin to kill you with his J. I know he is a good shooter just not as good as a lot of pg. And shooting percentage means pretty much nothing</div> How many PG's are good shooters? Shooting percentage means pretty much nothing? How can you discredit a PG for shooting 48.3%? He must get a lot of layups to shoot that high of a percentage. I don't really understand your argument here.
FreshPrince, unlike my esteemed colleague, GatorsowntheNCAA, I am a very big Jameer supporter. Your argument makes you sound like you've never seen the Magic play. Jameer can slash very much like Iverson can (meaning in the same way, he's not the slasher Iverson is by any means.) He has underrated court vision and very good passing abillity. He is almost always under control. He dribbles extremely low to the ground, when he was in college I said that he was the best dribbler I had ever seen. But besides that he's not tiny, he's almost a legitimate 6 feet tall. You made him sound like Boykins or Muggsy Bogues. Either way the largest praise comes from Gators himself. He wasn't lying about not being a huge Jameer supporter, but even he knmows that Jameer is a more than legitimate starter. He may never be an allstar, but the kid is the whole package, and considering his size he's a very good defender (although his size is a detriment to him.) Also, FreshPrince, who would the best defender on the other team guard if not Jameer? The only other possibility is Hedo, because Jameer was in nearly every way better offensively better than Deshawn Stevenson.
Miami is now going to be in the finals there is now way Wade will leave imo even if they lose I expect him to sign an extension this summer
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheHighness:</div><div class="quote_post">Miami is now going to be in the finals there is now way Wade will leave imo even if they lose I expect him to sign an extension this summer</div> Yeah, but the key to their whole team, Shaq won't be here more than 2 more years MAX.
I just think that there are a lot of other better pg's out there and jameer would be a better back up (maybe sixth man quality). I see him as a spark plug, and his numbers were good after the frnacis trade because who else was scoring for u guys? Dwight isnt a great scorer and neither is hedo. And jameer was my favorite player in college, i just dont think that he is the answer at pg for you guys. I mean troy hudson put up similar, maybe better numbers when he was healthy and started for the twolves. He is more of a bench player spark plug like i think jameer should be. Do u feel like t hud is the answer for any teams pg situation, because i dont.
I'm sorry, but Troy Hudson cannot be compared to Jameer Nelson. The only time he ever put up even comparable numbers was aftyer he had already been in the league like 5 years. This was Nelson's second year. Nelson also is a more consistant player than Hudson and has a different feel for the game. Jameer would probably be a great 6th man, but he's better than half the PG's in the league so why would that make sense? Call me crazy but if Jameer sits the bench, maybe Chris Paul should too, I think Nelson is a lot more like Paul than Hudson. I'd actually prefer Jameer!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck:</div><div class="quote_post">Um... First of all, we wouldn't have enough money to do that. Second of all, we don't want Vince Carter. He asked to be traded her in 2004, and we said "no", and that was the right decision. Screw Vince Carter</div> that was before the last 2 outstanding seasons he's had with NJ though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">that was before the last 2 outstanding seasons he's had with NJ though.</div> To be honest with you, I would rather have Josh Howard than Vince Carter. We need someone who can share the load. I'm not sure if VC would want to be in that role. He wouldn't be able to get that many shots in Orlando, since we are extremely balanced. That is why Wade(who's proven that he can share with Shaq) and Paul Pierce(who is very underrated passer) are on the top of my priority list, followed by Josh Howard(he just does the little things that help you win games).
