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    That's what this does. Pollution causes a ton of chronic disease and death.

    This would encourage people to buy solar panels, as well as invest in nuclear, geothermal, etc.

    This literally solves this problem as well. Using market forces.

    There is literally no down side to moving to cleaner energy sources than carbon unless you just love to have Russia and other authoritarian regimes as a world powers. That's literally the only benefit, it all goes to the extremely wealthy at the expense of everyone else.Everything else is a downside.

    The taxes are mandated to go into the progressive dividend. Just like Oregon's kicker is mandated to be disbursed, except these would be legislated to be disbursed progressively sowthat the middle class and poor receive more than the increase in pricing . That's in the law. It can not be changed except by vote. Nobody is going to vote to get rid of their income source. Just like the Oregon kicker. It has nothing to do with left or right.

    Pretty much all serious economists agree that a pollution tax is the best solution to both curb pollution and encourage the development.

    Once again, yes, the price would rise for items that rely on pollution. That's what we want. The dividend would pay the poor and middle class (the vast majority of the population) more than the rising price of those items. That is not negotiable. It is written in.
     
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    Classifying CO2 as a "pollutant" is part of climate change propaganda. Plants, the basis of our food chain, need Co2 and thrive at levels 3x what they are now. Burning fossil fuels does generate other pollutants, but Co2 is not one of them.

    Solar and wind can't replace fossil fuels. You need to do more research into that. California has been doing solar up to wazzo for decades and Gavin still has to ask people to not plug in their electric cars and they have to import coal powered energy from Mexico. It's a fine source of power, but it's supplemental.

    So you're going to end up increasing the cost of living for everyone when our economy is already strained. They want to ration everything for you while they continue to live high on the hog.

    This idea is sort of like taxing food to get people to lose weight.
     
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    Again, you're complaining about things that have already been addressed. I don't know why, but you're clearly trying to avoid solutions that would address every concern you've mentioned.

    Are you not quoting me so that I don't keep pointing out the solutions to your supposed concerns?
     
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