Eddie Jordan

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  1. Mamba

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    He is a problem. His sub patterns last year were horrible ( I got to watch games last year), and from what I have heard this year, they havent gotten any better. Rumors have it that EG didnt want him and that the only reason he was chosen for head coach is because Abe Pollin fell in love with him. If things keep going the way they are, I do not see him being the coach of this team next year. Sure the Wizards are above .500 and sure they are in playoff contention, but he relies too much on his guards. I think Grunfeld is looking for a head coach who has more control over this team, I dont think EJ has that. What are your opinions on him?
     
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    I think he was perfect as an assistant, like an offensive assistant. His offense is great, theres no suprise that the teams he brought it to flourished. I thought he was going to learn from all the mistakes he was making last year (substitutions, defense, & strategizing) but he's pretty much doing the exact same things as last year.
     
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    I agree, he would be a perfect assistant. But as a head coach? No, I dont see him learning from his mistakes, I think he is too influenced with his guards, I want to hold on too him as an assistant, I just dont like him as our head coach.
     
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    If they do end up firing him, we need to keep his offensive style like Sacto did. Too bad Larry Brown doesn't feel like jumping ship on another team again. We could use some of that defensive style. Who would you pick?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dr. H.H. Holmes:</div><div class="quote_post">If they do end up firing him, we need to keep his offensive style like Sacto did. Too bad Larry Brown doesn't feel like jumping ship on another team again. We could use some of that defensive style. Who would you pick?</div>
    Larry Brown wasn't even going to return after they won the championship. He just returned because the team was still together.
     
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    I dont know who I would pick right now, I think we could promote one of the assistants, but I really dont know right now, later in the season we will get a bigger picture of who would be a good coach.
     
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    Personally, I like Eddie Jordan. I think we let him coach out the year. If he gets us into the playoffs, keep him another year and hope he learns from a year where he actually has a roster to work with. If we fall apart it's time for a change. But the reality is there aren't many alternatives out there.

    As a side note, just because we're talking about how the Wizards need defense, I saw a cool stat today:

    The Wizards' opponents shoot 7% worse from the field with Haywood on the floor than off. How's that for defense?
     
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    i never liked Eddie , even from the beginning... But i dont know who could be able to replace him. Lets face it Head coach is a tough job. Wouldnt it be cool if we could get Phil Jackson though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Czy_Jojo:</div><div class="quote_post">i never liked Eddie , even from the beginning... But i dont know who could be able to replace him. Lets face it Head coach is a tough job. Wouldnt it be cool if we could get Phil Jackson though.</div>

    Actually, I wouldnt want Phil. This isnt his type of team, we dont have the Dominant superstar(s) he had in Chicago and L.A., I dont know if the Triangle would work with players like Arenas and Hughes also.
     
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    As much as I'm ticked at the team's struggles do to poor substitution patterns and shot selection, I must say this: The team NEEDS continuity! We can't just keep changing coaches and regimes every other year. It just doesn't work. I'm sure Utah's coach Sloan didn't make the decisions he makes as a coach today as he did within his first few years as the coach of the Jazz.
    - Don't get me wrong, I know the ball needs to get into the post more. When Kwame is up to speed and Etan comes back, I'm sure it will. Let's face it, our only post option that plays any real minutes at the moment is Brendan. Michael Ruffin puts forth great effort but has trouble laying the ball in the basket.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eYeKey:</div><div class="quote_post">As much as I'm ticked at the team's struggles do to poor substitution patterns and shot selection, I must say this: The team NEEDS continuity! We can't just keep changing coaches and regimes every other year. It just doesn't work. I'm sure Utah's coach Sloan didn't make the decisions he makes as a coach today as he did within his first few years as the coach of the Jazz.
    - Don't get me wrong, I know the ball needs to get into the post more. When Kwame is up to speed and Etan comes back, I'm sure it will. Let's face it, our only post option that plays any real minutes at the moment is Brendan. Michael Ruffin puts forth great effort but has trouble laying the ball in the basket.</div>

    I'll have to agree wholeheartedly. The team needs to get a foundation, and though Jordan may not be a Larry Brown or a Lenny Wilkins, but the team is winning, and EJ will learn more the more he coaches. I like is passion and his motivation and I definitely think EJ will be a wonderful coach in a few more years.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree, he would be a perfect assistant. But as a head coach? No, I dont see him learning from his mistakes, I think he is too influenced with his guards, I want to hold on too him as an assistant, I just dont like him as our head coach.</div>
    Eddie was a PG himself in his playing days, so it would make sense for him to like the guards, also he was a big steals guy himself, in his career he averaged 3.6 steals per 40 minutes, and in his best steal year he averaged 2.7 steals in 32.4 minutes, maybe that's why he never seems bothered by the guards missing defensive assignments sometimes on steal attempts.

    Anyways, the team goes to Jamison a lot though, but I don't think you can blame him much right now, Kwame isn't in "game shape" yet, but when he get's there he should get the touches. Eddie told him before that he wants him to be more productinve as scorer since he's the team's best post player.

    I think Hughes should get a big shot decrease when Kwame returns, he's not being an efficient scorer at all, and maybe he'll pick up his efficiency being the 4th option scorer.
     

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