Ex-Raps Who Play Well With Other Teams

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  1. jbbSkip

    jbbSkip JBB JustBBall Member

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    Skip
    Carlos
    Skinner
    Doug
    TMac
    Corliss
    Lenny


    I mean.... wtf?

    I know this doesnt mean they would played like this wit us but come on, this still makes you think of that what IF over and over.

    It just pisses the sh!t out of me everytime man... why we had to let Skip go? Honestly, why? I wanted to see more of that VC/Skip hookup, it woulda ripped ACC down literally. But what the deal for real?

    TMac's an exception tho, cause he would outshined VC anyways the way he worked so hard every year.
     
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    It was Richard Peddie's fault that Skip was let go, he said he didn't want to see a guy that just committed turnovers while he was on the floor and we'd be only getting back because the fans like him. [​IMG]

    Coriliss we were playing as a SF and traded for Jerome

    Carlos Arroyo was just a GG move, McCloskey was talking about how he was surprised they let Arroyo and Skip go since he was the one that told them to get those guys.

    Skinner we never game him a chance.

    Doug, traded

    TMac didn't want to be here

    Lenny Wilkens???
     
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    hmmm... I never realized it was peddies fault for Skips lack of resigning here in TO until og15 informed everybody. Now I see the truth about peddie. THere was an interesting article regarding him in the Tornto Star Sports, about how he should have kept the tradition of game apologies @ the end of the season, and how it should be his apology.

    ohterwise why lenny? and I wasn't really into baksketball when most of them were let go, so i cant comment.
     
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    t-mac was leaving anyways...i cant believe people still dont realize this

    this doesnt just happen to the raps, it happens to every team

    big ben wallace, was practically a nobody in washington/orlando
    flip murray showing what he can do in seattle
    sam cassell in mini. he's having a career season
    fred hoiberg in mini. shooting the ball better then ever
    bruce bowen in san antonio. who knew he could shoot? certainly not anyone in miami
    jermaine o'neal. from 12th man to mvp consideration
    ron artest. relatively unknown player in chicago...all star and arguably defensive player of the year
    damon jones. shopped around the league...found a home in milwaukee with a solid season
    j will...from top 5 in the L in turnovers to #1 in the L in assist to turnover ratio
    lamar odom. had arguably his best and most injury free season in years
    kenny thomas. not traded for much and hes a rebounding machine with decent low post moves and D
    donyell marshall. a double double machine, had a career season in toronto and didnt even spend a whole season with the team.

    ....see what i mean? need me to go on? its not just the raps man, it happens to every team. if GM's could predict the future however, this trend might go down just a bit [​IMG]
     
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    Exactly, even more
    Brian Cardinal, never played in Detroit
    Brian Skinner, went all around even came here
    Rodney White, wasn't given a chance in Detroit
    Joe Johnson, Boston let him go to early
    Michael Redd, was a FA in 2001 and no one payed attention to him, ended up getting a tiny contract from the Bucks during training camp, man I feel so bad for him. I wanted the Raps to get him then and get rid of Mo-Pete but am I inmanagement?

    Matt Harpring, traded by Orlando for Andrew Declerq?, then bounced around

    Correy Maggette, traded by Orlando with Dooling for a future first rounder, don't think they've used it yet.

    Elton Brand traded for Tyson Chandler
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Elton Brand traded for Tyson Chandler</div>

    cept elton was already droppin 20-10 in chicago

    ouch! imagine chicago had this line up:

    heinrich
    crawford
    artest
    brand
    curry

    [​IMG]
     
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    ^^And Brad Miller
     
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    bulls never knew that d-marsh would be taht good with the raps
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">t-mac was leaving anyways...i cant believe people still dont realize this</div>
    I think the big thing with the T-Mac situation was the fact the Raptors got NOBODY for him, zero, zilch, nada, bupkiss,the big donut

    I think even casual fans at the time were able to understand that T-Mac was set to test free agency. Look at how Orlando is handling him now. If they can't get a firm commitment, they're looking to trade. That's the way it should have been handled in Toronto

    Look at what Detroit got for Grant Hill in the same situation, Atkins and Ben Wallace.........
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">cept elton was already droppin 20-10 in chicago

    ouch! imagine chicago had this line up:

    heinrich
    crawford
    artest
    brand
    curry

    [​IMG]</div>

    haha, I was just about to bring this up too... so don't worry raptor fans, you arent the only team with bad management... dj, you also forgot brad miller. well I guess not, he would be benched in this situation.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mydi619:</div><div class="quote_post">haha, I was just about to bring this up too... so don't worry raptor fans, you arent the only team with bad management... dj, you also forgot brad miller. well I guess not, he would be benched in this situation.</div>

    Benched in favor of Curry? Not if the Bulls were trying to win. That's what they originally did when they drafted Curry, brought him off the bench behind Miller. The front court of Artest, Brand and Miller were just starting to gel when Krause traded Brand.
     
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    oh yea...brad miller too...even worse lol


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">bulls never knew that d-marsh would be taht good with the raps</div>

    err...why not? he had a great season with utah.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting K Bomber:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the big thing with the T-Mac situation was the fact the Raptors got NOBODY for him, zero, zilch, nada, bupkiss,the big donut

    I think even casual fans at the time were able to understand that T-Mac was set to test free agency. Look at how Orlando is handling him now. If they can't get a firm commitment, they're looking to trade. That's the way it should have been handled in Toronto

    Look at what Detroit got for Grant Hill in the same situation, Atkins and Ben Wallace.........</div>

    no

    we got a first round draft pick. we were lucky to get even that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Skip:</div><div class="quote_post">Skip
    Carlos
    Skinner
    Doug
    TMac
    Corliss
    Lenny


    I mean.... wtf?

    I know this doesnt mean they would played like this wit us but come on, this still makes you think of that what IF over and over.

    It just pisses the sh!t out of me everytime man... why we had to let Skip go? Honestly, why? I wanted to see more of that VC/Skip hookup, it woulda ripped ACC down literally. But what the deal for real?

    TMac's an exception tho, cause he would outshined VC anyways the way he worked so hard every year.</div>

    You forgot about Damon also.
     
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    Damon aka pothead wanted to be traded anyways... plus he sucked after that rookie year.

    Lmao I never said this just happens to Raps(where did I say that?), it was just specifically for Raps, that's all.

    P.S. post players from other teams who did this if you like.
     
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    How about Chauncey Billups??

    Oh yah, and you guys also forgot Jonathan Bender [​IMG]
     
  16. og15

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    For Antonio Davis, welll AD was good for about 2 years, after that he was just garbage
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notic101:</div><div class="quote_post">You forgot about Damon also.</div>

    hardly...stoudie had the best years of his career with the raps. his production went down after he left.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">hardly...stoudie had the best years of his career with the raps. his production went down after he left.</div>

    He's still ten times better than whatever PG we've had since his departure, and I'd like to see you object to that. I'd take him over Jalen running the show anyday. Still got love for Jalen, but just spitting the truth.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notic101:</div><div class="quote_post">He's still ten times better than whatever PG we've had since his departure, and I'd like to see you object to that. I'd take him over Jalen running the show anyday. Still got love for Jalen, but just spitting the truth.</div>

    why would i object to that? its not even what the thread is about...the thread is about players who have played better once they left toronto, you said damon, and fact of the matter is, he played better in toronto. sure he'd be a welcome addition to the team, whos arguing that?
     
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    I know what you mean....but if the raptors can get Steve Nash...ppl might be able to forget everything about those ppl...
     

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