FBI prevenst car bomb at Pioneer Courthouse Square

Terrorism is a myth.... right?

 

Fuck I was right there at that time.

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They were trying to take you out.

 

This is exactly what I had thought up to this point. There are certainly more significant targets than Portland. But just like people lighting shoes or their underwear on the airplane, it's really about getting one to go through wherever you can.

 

No one says it's a myth that the Muslim world is up in arms against us for killing a million civilian Iraqis, and a half-million of their children before that from a decade of medical sanctions.

What critics say is that "terrorism" has never been defined. Laws like the Patriot Act allow government to spy on anyone who might be a "terrorist." Since those laws don't define the word, the word means everyone in the country, since the new laws also allow local FBI offices to wiretap without getting court approval.

It takes courage to buck the system. Every word on your cell phone, e-mails, and message boards are now searched by computers for key words and behavioral patterns, in order to prevent about 1 explosion per year, killing a small number of people every few years..."every few years" because in many of the annual acts prevented, it is shown later that they wouldn't have killed anyone, since the bomber was incompetent (e.g. using the wrong chemicals).

Get out of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and this will end. Before the US started provoking Muslims by killing and torturing them en masse, there was one similar event in this country, ever--it was against one of NYC's Twin Towers. Meanwhile, all Americans have lost our freedom of privacy, to save a couple of lives per year.

 

You are wrong. Terrorism was here before the wars, and will be here after. The reason terrorism was here before the wars is becuase of the Israeli-Palestinian situation, not the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. While they do help fuel some extremism, at the same time, they help get rid of them because many of them go to fight our forces in Afghanistan instead of here. Instead of igniting a car bomb somewhere they pick up a rifle and go fight our troops over there. Afghanistan is what I call a honey pot. The fight we have there, keeps many extremist bottled up there fighting instead of striking throughout the world.

 

If you list the terrorist events in the US before the wars began, and list them after, you will find they occur ten times as often, if not more. And the multiplier is much higher if you compare before and after in the rest of the world.

It's simple. Just stop these evil wars. The majority of Americans have always said so. Even at the height of the media-inspired war mania, which was in the week before the Iraq war started, polls said that barely over 50% of Americans said they were in favor of war only if Bush got the UN to agree. He said he intended to do no such thing. The percentage of Americans in favor has, of course, steeply declined ever since.

 

Ok, changing subjects a little bit:

I wonder how some of you here would deal with the terrorism of South America in the late 1980's, and early 1990's? Terrorism has always had a strong influence and a lot of power and not just from the middle-east (if not more power in South America). Sure it was not in the States but it was still close by.


That's daily terrorism, you can't go on the bus and parked cars can just suddenly explode. People with rifles point them at you in gas stations, and you better look like an urban worker. Colombia, Peru, etc. was crazy back then, and Colombia had the highest murder rate in the world. That guy in Scarface is a softy compared to reality; Pablo Esobar was a real tyrant. Narco-terrorism and El Sendero Luminoso blows this away. Thank God the government got aggressive with them. There's nothing like a terrorist war on your own soil to put things in perspective. There's a lot of chaos we need to be aware of, not just threats in the middle east. I feel like we forget about other important countries, and growing dissent.

 

The point is that so many people, especially in this particular city, have questioned the motives and the methods of our government since 911, yet here is a prime example of the system getting the job done. How many other cases like this one go unreported?

Yeah, those evil wars are the cause of all our troubles. We should stop them so the terrorists will leave us alone. If we leave the Middle East, all our troubles will stop, right?

 

You didn't deny one detail in what you excerpted from my post.

Your little "crazy" icon isn't calling only the majority of Americans crazy. You also disagree with many of the troops in Iraq. A scientific poll was taken of them back in about 2005, and even at that early stage, 1/4 of American troops in Iraq already thought we should get out. No more polls allowed because of that, and I would think it's long since passed 1/2.

 

Ironically there were a bunch of anti wear protestors trying to ruin the night for the families too.

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Lol that's awesome!

Glad to see Clinton stepped up.

 

Proof positive that HSA has been reading your emails for several years now with no warrant. And they've tracked all your phone calls, maybe even filed some illegal recordings of them if they were juicy.

As far as this kid goes, the whole case sounds like they enlisted and groomed this guy for the role of stooge in a "terrorist plot" planned and directed wholly by the Homeland Security Dept and the FBI. Without their persistent involvement, no crime would have ever occurred.

Convenient timing to quiet the TSA grope and ogle fiasco, don't you think?

 

You are onto something Maris...

Clueless Patsy Set-up by FBI in Christmas Tree Bombing Plot

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
November 27, 2010

 

No disrespect to Travis Outlaw.......

But am I the only one who notices an eerily resemblance between Outlaw and the would-be bomber? Dude looks like Travis with lots of hair.

 

They prefer the term "nudists"/