Finally Orton proves something...

Finally Kyle Orton showed that he is not that good of a QB. I was getting so sick and tired of people saying that Rex Grossman is going to be out of town next year, and Orton was going to lead them to a division title this year. Lets be freaking realistic here. There is a reason why Grossman was a 1st rounder, and Kyle Orton was a 3rd rounder. He had 1 decent game. If there is going to be anybody leading the Bears to a division title this year, it is going to be Brian Urlacher and their defense. Not Kyle Orton. All the analysts were making it sound like Orton is going to be the next Tom Brady. Hopefully his 5 picks will shut them up for a couple weeks. Rex Grossman is the future of this team, not Kyle Orton.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (N_Burleson4life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Finally Kyle Orton showed that he is not that good of a QB. I was getting so sick and tired of people saying that Rex Grossman is going to be out of town next year, and Orton was going to lead them to a division title this year. Lets be freaking realistic here. There is a reason why Grossman was a 1st rounder, and Kyle Orton was a 3rd rounder. He had 1 decent game. If there is going to be anybody leading the Bears to a division title this year, it is going to be Brian Urlacher and their defense. Not Kyle Orton. All the analysts were making it sound like Orton is going to be the next Tom Brady. Hopefully his 5 picks will shut them up for a couple weeks. Rex Grossman is the future of this team, not Kyle Orton.</div>

Joe Montana was a forth rounder, so what's your point?

 

Orton was a 4th too I believe. I never said that Grossman should be out of town, but I still think Orton can play, be it as a starter or not. There are plenty better than him, but considering the circumstances, I think he is doing OK. Every rookie QB doesn't come out looking like Big Ben.

 

I think the point is finally Kyle Orton played like a 4th round rookie. He made mistakes. Now granted 5 pickes is a little overboard but up until then he's had a nice season. Lets see if he can rebound.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (N_Burleson4life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Finally Kyle Orton showed that he is not that good of a QB. I was getting so sick and tired of people saying that Rex Grossman is going to be out of town next year, and Orton was going to lead them to a division title this year. Lets be freaking realistic here. There is a reason why Grossman was a 1st rounder, and Kyle Orton was a 3rd rounder. He had 1 decent game. If there is going to be anybody leading the Bears to a division title this year, it is going to be Brian Urlacher and their defense. Not Kyle Orton. All the analysts were making it sound like Orton is going to be the next Tom Brady. Hopefully his 5 picks will shut them up for a couple weeks. Rex Grossman is the future of this team, not Kyle Orton.</div>

thats what ive been trying to say to. A 4th round rookie QB cant do it. 1st round QBs struggle lots of times their 1st year, and a 4th rounder will struggle even more

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (N_Burleson4life)</div><div class='quotemain'>Finally Kyle Orton showed that he is not that good of a QB. I was getting so sick and tired of people saying that Rex Grossman is going to be out of town next year, and Orton was going to lead them to a division title this year. Lets be freaking realistic here. There is a reason why Grossman was a 1st rounder, and Kyle Orton was a 3rd rounder. He had 1 decent game. If there is going to be anybody leading the Bears to a division title this year, it is going to be Brian Urlacher and their defense. Not Kyle Orton. All the analysts were making it sound like Orton is going to be the next Tom Brady. Hopefully his 5 picks will shut them up for a couple weeks. Rex Grossman is the future of this team, not Kyle Orton.</div>

Good to know that one 5 pick game proves you are not that good of a QB. Culpepper had one of those already this season. Do not ever try and defend him again. Your own words doom you.

 

I'm not going to say that one game makes a QB, so the 5 picks in one game doesn't prove anything. But conversly, neither does one good game. He is a rookie QB, and traditionally rookie QBs struggle. We all gave TKO crap for talking up Losman without seeing him in action, I think the pressure is definitely on Orton to prove himself before he is annointed the next Tom Brady.

I do like this kid and think he has the poise to do very well in this league. But I am not ready to say that he is the next franchise QB for the Bears.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not going to say that one game makes a QB, so the 5 picks in one game doesn't prove anything. But conversly, neither does one good game. He is a rookie QB, and traditionally rookie QBs struggle. We all gave TKO crap for talking up Losman without seeing him in action, I think the pressure is definitely on Orton to prove himself before he is annointed the next Tom Brady.

I do like this kid and think he has the poise to do very well in this league. But I am not ready to say that he is the next franchise QB for the Bears.</div>

Agreed. However, if i see NB4 talking up culpepper, i will refer to this thread for the rest of time :cheesey:

 

2 thoughts

1) Other than Rothliesberger & Marino which rookie QB's haven't struggled?

2) Brady was a 6th round pick

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>2 thoughts

1) Other than Rothliesberger & Marino which rookie QB's haven't struggled?

2) Brady was a 6th round pick</div>

Brady had one of the best o-coordinators, and Ben and Marino were exceptions to the rule. Eli Manning struggled so much last year but is looking great this year

 

how can rex grossman be the future of the team when he cant even play a full season?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hoodie7)</div><div class='quotemain'>how can rex grossman be the future of the team when he cant even play a full season?</div>

Has palmer ever started all 16 games?

 

I never said that 5 picks in one game makes you a bad player. All I am saying is I don't think that Orton is what people are cracking him up to be, and that Rex Grossman is the future of this team.

 

Orton had a lot of hype because of preseason

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (N_Burleson4life)</div><div class='quotemain'>I never said that 5 picks in one game makes you a bad player. All I am saying is I don't think that Orton is what people are cracking him up to be, and that Rex Grossman is the future of this team.</div>

Either way, judged him by one game, i will do same for culpepper for time. He is obviously not what people are cracking him up to be and todd bouman is obviously future of franchise

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (N_Burleson4life)</div><div class='quotemain'>I never said that 5 picks in one game makes you a bad player. All I am saying is I don't think that Orton is what people are cracking him up to be, and that Rex Grossman is the future of this team.</div>

Either way, judged him by one game, i will do same for culpepper for time. He is obviously not what people are cracking him up to be and todd bouman is obviously future of franchise</div>

Just be glad he is a rookie and his name is Kyle Orton and not Kyle Boller.

 

if Rex Grossman comes back this year i think he will end up starting, because Lovie Smith needs to know if he needs to draft a QB

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Either way, judged him by one game, i will do same for culpepper for time. He is obviously not what people are cracking him up to be and todd bouman is obviously future of franchise
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LOL. Uhh, by the way, Todd Bouman hasn't been in a Vikings uniform for about 3 years now. Nice try though.

Ouch.
Boom goes the dynamite.

And by the way...Culpepper has proven himself in the past, so you cant judge him by one game. Do I hear 39 TD's and 4700 yards in 2004? But that's another story.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (N_Burleson4life)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Either way, judged him by one game, i will do same for culpepper for time. He is obviously not what people are cracking him up to be and todd bouman is obviously future of franchise
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LOL. Uhh, by the way, Todd Bouman hasn't been in a Vikings uniform for about 3 years now. Nice try though.

Ouch.
Boom goes the dynamite.

And by the way...Culpepper has proven himself in the past, so you cant judge him by one game. Do I hear 39 TD's and 4700 yards in 2004? But that's another story.</div>

Did you make up mind on pepper after 3 games into his NFL career? NO, oh yeah thats right he got to sit on bench and learn, and didnt get thrown into fire as a rookie. Yeah, i dont know what dynomite comment is about? Cuz i was real serious about bouman comment Sorry, your whole premise is dumb. Every bit of it. Eli manning last year had horrible numbers going into his 4th game, I guess we can write him off as never going to be successful. Only fair to judge and condemn a rookie QB by their third game. Maybe, you got purple goo seeping into brain and cant think clearly?

 

LMAO, this whole thing has gone so much farther than I thought it would. It's all in good fun. I guess I am just biased because I am a Rex Grossman fan.