Fletcher Mackel believes Rudy will be a Hornet

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  1. OSUBlazerfan

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    Now i know this guy may be a douche and spread rumors, but if he did talk to monty, you would have to assume he knows something
     
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    Or how about a Maverick?

    http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3368

    I know I'm in the tiny minority at this point, but I've always liked Rudy and I think he's a great talent, he's just in the wrong situation. It's good to hear so many teams are at least 'interested' in him, maybe we'll actually get some real value back.
     
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    If Paul really isn't available, I don't know too many who would be disappointed by a Rudy (and change) for Collison trade. I don't think Collison will be as great as some do (marginal starter), but I would rather have him that Rudy (and change).
     
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    I dont know how we could get Terry for Rudy under the Salary Cap, but i would do that in a heart beat
     
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    I don't think the Blazers should trade with the Hornets unless CP3 is coming here. Rudy will likely be had on the cheap - and could conceivably thrive in a new environment. The last thing we want to do is give Chris Paul hope that his team is going to be better.

    Of course, I am telling myself that CP3 and management secretly decided it was best to part ways in their meeting Monday. They tried to make it look like everything was OK to help CP3's trade value. Now Fletcher Mackel is catching on that Rudy is part of the package we are sending them. :NOTMARIS:
     
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    It's worth it to go back and take a look at this piece written by Dwight Jaynes at the end of last year

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2009/05/blazers-you-be-the-gm-rudy-fernandez.html

    The warning signs were all there.
     
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    I don't like either of the suggested trades with Dallas. Terry probably wouldn't be able to score under Nate without his off-center head band.
     
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    Collison on N.O. is about the only thing that makes sense.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That would be a great pickup in my opinion.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2e96p2e

    too little probably, but maybe a starting point.
     
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    Rudy for Collison would be nice. If memory serves, Nate really liked him after a workout last year.

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2009/06/nba_predraft_video_ucla_guard.html
     
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    yeah... :sigh: The sand was caked on my head pretty bad when I finally pulled it out a few weeks ago.

    Seems highly unlikely for NO to do that, but I do that in a heartbeat.
     
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    The signs were there, as I also said from day one that he would not be happy here. Dwight used money as a major factor. Where i always thought the small market would be a factor. (Plus he lost his tan by October 15th)

    But the bottom line really comes down to he just is not as good as he thinks. If he was a little better he would get his 30 minutes a game and be in there in crunch time. Again he is a great bench player. I wish we could have kept him, but for an extended period of time he will not start for any championship caliber team. It takes many players 2-3 teams before they figure that out.
     
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    Think about it this way, do they need a 10-12 minute backup point guard who can't share the court with Paul (two six foot guards aint going to cut it defensively) or does Paul need a 6'6" shooting guard who likes to shoot a lot of threes and could probably play anywhere from 28-32 minutes a night given Peja's decline. If the goal is to show Paul that they are trying to win and trying to surround him with more talent then I think they'd look long and hard at Rudy and a combo guard like Bayless for Collison, with some filler like Wright thrown in ... hell we could even give them the rights to Claver or one of our other Eurostash players if it would help get the deal done.
     
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    Yeah, the move would make sense for them, I just wonder if they aren't getting better offers for Collison. But I just saw the trade idea that also involves Bayless, that could work.
     
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    ... and part with Doron Shefer? Never!
     
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    I'm not sold on them trading Collison, he is their best trading piece but he is also their best insurance policy if CP does indeed split.
     
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    But, in order to keep CP3, they will have to trade Collison, because, as you mentioned, he is what they have to trade. Their job is to get the most out of him the can. Collison is likely no more than a decent second tier PG. If you have a chance to keep Paul, then you easily give him up. I'm just not sure trading for Rudy would be what they need.
     
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    I don't know if we can trade Rudy straight for a draft pick, but if it's the Hornets, that would be my guess.
     
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    Rudy for Collison is a no-brainer for me. Do it, then work on moving Miller and Joel (and likely Bayless) sometime before the trade deadline for an established player in whatever the position of need is at that time.

    Collison would have to come off the bench until Miller is moved, though.
     
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    Getting Collison for Rudy would be tremendous, but I can't see New Orleans doing it. I have to believe that they'd get better offers than Fernandez if/when they put him on the market (and, of course, I think they'll need to put him on the market if they're holding onto Paul).

    I'm not as high on Collison as some, and I wouldn't be terribly excited by a Bayless for Collison swap...but I don't place a lot of value in Rudy at this point and I think Collison's competence and upside is worth quite a bit more. A conventional starters-and-reserves situation of Roy/Miller backed up by Bayless/Collison would eventually give way to a possible three-guard rotation of Roy/Bayless/Collison.

    The only problem is that Wesley Matthews would have essentially no minutes left at shooting guard and would be purely a small forward reserve. But it does allow Portland to flip Bayless, Collison or Matthews at some later date, so perhaps it's not a problem.
     

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