http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/030709_drug_testing_for_the_unemployed Let's not just take away your constitutional rights but lets make you pay for taking away or constitutional rights, it's like you're having a hard time as it or anything.
Why is this a bad idea? Most jobs have drug tests, or at least have the right to test you. Why shouldn't someone who receiving money from my paycheck be subject to the same rules. I'm not sure if BeerBoy was serious or not but I would test welfare folks also. What constitutional right are you talking about? I don't see any problem, maybe right to privacy but no one is requiring them collect benefits.
I think its a fine rule. If you're sitting home all day just smoking weed, you shouldn't get paid for it. fuck that mang.
You folks who support this obviously have no idea what a drug test cost. Lets put it this way. It cost more than the unemployment would cost them. Still a good idea?
How much would unemployment cost? That's a few hundred bucks a week per person. Drug tests are a few hundred bucks max, right? A search online kind of confirms that.
What are you only going to test them once? If your going to drug test people, you have to keep it going over the long haul. Some drugs can be out of your system in hours. Secondly, you seem to forget that a vast majority of folks would pass the drug test. Then you would have the cost of the drug test, plus their unemployment, thus increasing the costs.
do you know what a random drug test is? random, meaning its checking sporadically. it discourages drug use by unemployed people sitting on their asses doing nothing. lots of unemployment cheats out there, the more people we can kick off these programs the better IMO.
1st - The 4th amendment outlaws forbids random government drug testing because it's an unreasonable search. In order for the government to test a person for drugs the have to a valid reason to suspect you of using them. It's no different then searching your home or car. 2nd - You don't "pay" for unemployment. Unemployment is paid for the unemployment insurance that comes out of your pay check, which is why only people who are layed off or fired can get it.
Its not unreasonable because its a condition to receive an optional benefit. And 2nd, I'm employed so I am paying indirectly for unemployment benefits. We've had people who are still claiming unemployment for quite some time, some fuckers who deserved to get fired and we have to pay some money to them every month? fuck that, the less net income my company has, that's a direct hit on my own paycheck. The more people that claim unemployment, the higher the rates get, which affect my salary.
Even I, an avid herb smoker, have no problem with this. I don't want my tax money spent on someone's sack.
"Reasonable" is not defined as "what Eric thinks is fair." "Reasonable" here means that the government has to have a legitimate reason to believe that the person being tested has drugs in his/her system. It has nothing to do with whether it is forced or part of a program. The US postal system is an optional government service, but they can't legally search your car when you want to send a letter.
Sucks for you, but that doesn't change the fact that it is unreasonable search because the goverment cannot search someone for something illegel without a valid reason, and I don't mean valid like it effects or whatever but valid like a person acting as though they are on drugs.
no they don't. its completely random for a kind of assitance program. should they also NOT check to make sure that people on unemployment are actually applying for jobs! Privacy!
But they can randomly test their employees, right? What's the difference? If you don't want to take the test you don't have to, you just won't get the benefits. I smoke weed and know that if I'm looking for a job, I need to stop to stay motivated, interview well, and possibly have to take a test upon getting hired. If you're collected unemployment, shouldn't these reasons apply to you. If you're not really looking for a job, you shouldn't get paid.
