For all the bitchin about Travis Outlaw makin mistakes on the floor...

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  1. KingSpeed

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    ..... I'd like to point out that SIX Blazers commit more turnovers than Travis.

    Look for a big game by Travis tonight at Staples.
     
  2. B-Roy

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    Sadly, mistakes don't necessarily mean turnovers.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Stop looking at boxscores Eric and watch the game. Travis makes turnovers and takes bad shots when the game is on the line. Sure, he makes some of those shots, but that doesn't make it all okay.

    He also tends to leave three point shooters wide open, which doesn't show up in a boxscore.
     
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    This summarizes everything.
     
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    eric i love your passion but take off the rose colored glasses...your avitar is a ticking time bomb
     
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    Yes, it summarizes how opinions matter more than stats to the "I cringe when Outlaw has the ball" crowd.
     
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    You're really trying to argue about Outlaw after he wasn't even paying enough attention to catch the pass he had just cut for?

    If you want to profile people who have various reasons for not being confident in Outlaw, that's nice, but lately Outlaw has been pretty bad. That's backed by my opinion, stats, and the gameplay itself.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Pops! Missed you the last couple of days...had some good Outlaw discussion.

    If you want factoids and stats, just let me know. Dug up a lot the last few days.
     
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    Put Shavlik in!
     
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    whoops wrong thread!
     
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    That +/- stat that shows Travis is the Blazers' worst player is not a distortion. I do believe that Travis is the Blazers' worst player. He gets his stats because he plays a lot of minutes.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Hey Eric, since you love Boxscores so much, how's this one?

    1/8, 2 rbds, 1 assist, 4 fouls, 3 points in 16 minutes?
     
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    what a timely thread.
     
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    I'd say checkmate, but I'm sure he'll figure something out to re-direct this.
     
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    Honestly, this wasn't even one of the games I don't like Travis in. He didn't play great, got it. He made a dumb mistake or two, sure.

    But this was a colossal team effort loss in the 2nd half. Would I have liked to see Batum more than Outlaw? Sure. But that's Nate's bag, not Travis's.

    I hated Blake's game tonight much more than Travis's. It wasn't close enough at the end for a boneheaded move.
     
  16. KingSpeed

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    Travis had a bad game. Only a couple games ago, though, he dunked on KG. Can't I like him for that?
     
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    Bad games tend to come a lot from Travis.....
     
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    Travis sucked, but he's not the one to blame tonight. Blake was downright atrocious in the third quarter, along with Rudy. Those two couldn't hit the ocean when we needed them.
     
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    Very true, KingSpeed I'm all for loving Travis for the dunks on KG, Carney, and the like, but I don't think it necessarily makes up for other things.
     
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    travis is way to inconsitent for a 6th year player. we need reliable bench options if we are ever gonna get deep in the playoffs
     

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