For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered)

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  1. AgentDrazenPetrovic

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    I assume b/c of affirmative action? I guess shit just works its way out. So its easier for illegal immigrants versus qualified out of staters to get in? She scored in the 3RD fucking percentile on part of her SAT (I'm assuming the verbal due to her language barrier)?



    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-freshman2-2009feb02,0,2186812.story?page=1&track=rss


     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    It says on a subject test. SAT subject tests are tests about specific subjects, e.g. history, rather than the general aptitude tests.

    It also doesn't say that her admission was based in any way on that test. The school might not even have known the score.

    How does the average freshman have a 4.22 GPA? Do more schools now use 5.0 as the top instead of 4.0?

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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    where i went to high school(in texas), 4.0 was the top in regular classes however if you were taking preAP or AP classes it went up to 5.0 instead. so the more difficult classes counted more than the easier classes. of course it wasn't possible to actually end up with a 5.0 gpa because of classes like PE, speech, art, etc.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    Yeah, it's basically that way in California too (where I went to high school). There weren't "pre-AP classes" but AP classes counted for an extra point of GPA (and also counted for college freshman first semester courses...like if you took English AP, you could skip the first English course in the UC system).
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    preAP was just what they called it for freshman and sophomore classes, while the junior and senior classes were called AP. i was still required to take an AP test before being able to claim credit for college classes though.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    Seems like a pretty sensible system. When and where I went to school, the valedictorian took only home ec and crafts and that sort of stuff, those counted the same as anything else. I remember the college-bound kid who was next in line, who got only 1 B in 4 years, was pretty bitter about that. Wonder what happened to the two of them...

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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    Ah right, I forgot the AP exams. I only took two AP classes and only bothered to take the AP exam for one of them. I passed it, but skipping one course really didn't amount to a hill of beans.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    dude, taking those classes again in college = easy A.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    to me, its kind of weak to take people outside of numbers and qualifications for the sake of "diversity" or whatver they want to do to make everyone feel good about themselves. this is why america is getting fucked over, we're a feel good society.

    "pass to the girl before you score a basket...that's the rule".

    yeah, how many of you had that rule playing basketball in elementary PE. weak sauce.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    But an easy A in college means just as much as an easy A in high school: nothing at all.

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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    I remember the rule that you weren't supposed to pants the girls. definitely weak sauce.

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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    i hope she gets deported.

    land of opportunity my ass.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    40 bucks from the parents!

    :ghoti:
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    I wonder why I worked so hard. Straight A's in middle and high school, with no financial incentive from the parents. And at my school they didn't give extra GPA points for the AP-level classes. It was frustrating to see other people I knew with a 4.3...when that wasn't even feasible for me despite taking classes at WOU when I was 16.

    But I shouldn't be bitter, I was the valedictorian.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    So what the story fails to mention is how De La Cruz had a part time job to help her family pay the bills and how she babysat her siblings and cleaned the house every night while dad works graveyard and mom needed help after working 10 hour days cleaning house.

    Stories like this leave out how De La Cruz had more responsiblities than most of her classmates could possibly fathom and she did all that while maintaining a 3.34 GPA and taking tests in her second language.

    How she has over come many obsticles and deserves as much of a chance as someone who gets a 4.0 and does well on their standardized tests.

    Thank god the admissions process understands and implements the idea that student potential is not all about grades and tests and there is more to a person drive and potential than that. De La Cruz has convinced an admissions process system that she has the potential and commitment that it takes to go to UCLA.

    I hope she kicks ass.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    The story begins and ends with "she's an illegal immigrant". She should be deported so she can attend college in her native country.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    She came to the US when she was four years old. I doubt it was her decision.

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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    It doesn't matter. She's illegal.
     
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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    Might not matter to you. Matters to me. I don't think it is right to punish the child for the sins of the parents.

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    Re: For an Illegal...getting into UCLA was the easy part.....(when the bar is lowered

    so what happens when the kid and parents come to the country legally, but when the kid turns a certain age(i'm not sure what that age is, 21 maybe?) and their parents forget to file the proper paperwork to have the kid legally become a citizen?

    that should be taken out on the kid, right?
     
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