I got rid of the articles section so I will post it again Written by:BALLAHOLLIC<u>Sidney Moncrief</u>One of the games best perimiter defenders of all time. He was more of an explosive scorer than his 15 per night stats showed. Moncrief could score with the best of them. He is Two-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year, Four-time All-NBA First Team, Five-time NBA All-Defensive Team, and a Five-time All-Star but yet not many remember who he is.He was so strong and quick he had no choice but to become a good defender. He could bench his body weight plus 30 pounds which not only made him a great interior defender, but made him capable of banging inside with the big men.I remember him most for shutting down Larry Bird as his Milwaukee team swept the Boston Celtics in the semifinals. The Celtics team were one of the best teams in NBA history and Moncrief and his team stopped them.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"When you play against Moncrief, you're in for a night of all-around basketball. He'll hound you everywhere you go, both ends of the court. You just expect it."-Michael Jordan</div><u>Walt Frazier</u>A top 5 point guard of all time in my opinion.He was such a great scorer and playmaker that people overlook the fact that he was a top notch defender as well. One of the greatest defensive guards in league history.He was the best player on one of the best teams in history. He dominated Jerry West in the 1970 NBA finals. He frustrated West with his tough defense and unstoppable jump shot.Frazier had one of the best stat lines in NBA history. In game 7 of the 1970 NBA finals against the great Laker team that consisted of Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlian. Frazier scored 39 points, dished out 19 assists, and had 5 steals. Just his points and assists alone combined for 77 of his teams total pointsThose great numbers are overshadowed because of the great heroics of Willis Reed who surprised the world by limping onto the court with a major leg injury. Had this been any other night people would still be talking about Fraziers amazing performance.<u>Maurice Stokes </u>Is there anything this man couldn't do? He scored, rebounded, and dished out assists at will.He was one of the NBA's best rebounders averaging over 17 boards a game. He did this while being among the NBA's assist leaders and scoring in double figures. He was just a monster who played every game as if it was his last... However one night that statement become true. In the final regular-season game in his third year as a pro, the Cincinnati Royals all-star fell to the floor, hit his head and was knocked unconscious. He was revived a few minutes later and actually returned to the game. That shows what kind of heart this made had for the game. The sad thing is, He did not know that fall would end his life in a matter of hours.A few days later the 24-year-old went into a coma and was permanently paralyzed, his career over just as fast as it had started.In 1970 Stokes died of a heart attack. Maurice Stokes was only 36 years old.Bobby Wanzer, who coached and played with him for a couple years said, "If things had worked out differently, Maurice would have become one of the top 10 players of all time."I cant say I disagree with that.<u>Andrew Toney</u>If you looked up the word overshadowed in the dictionary you would see a picture of Andrew Toney. He played for the same 76ers team as greats Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Maurice Cheeks, and for a short while Charles Barkley.He was the complete package. He had very little flaws in his game.The most impressive thing about Toney was his ability to take over in late game situations.He is one of the most clutch players in NBA history yet not many remember who he was or what he did. The Celtics actually traded for great defender Dennis Johnson just to guard Toney in the playoffs. Of course it didn't work. He still lit the Celtics up on the scoreboard which is why he is called the "Boston Strangler"Current Miami Heat coach Pat Riley once said, "He's the greatest clutch player I've ever seen. The hell with Jerry West!"Thats coming from a Hall Of Fame type coach.<u>Reggie Theus</u>He is the definiton of underrated. He was solid and he rarley sat out NBA games because of injury. He was a 2 time NBA all star but his teams leading scorer 6 times. He is overlooked often because he had bad luck when it came to playing for losing teams. He played on some really horrible teams. Heres a shocker for guys who doesn't know who Reggie Theus is. He scored more points than hall of famers Isiah Thomas,Bob McAdoo, and many others. He has more assists than hall of famers Jerry West,Larry Bird,Walt Frazier, and many othersThe guy gets no love. In my opinion he is one of the most underrated players in league history.There are only four players among the top 40 all-time scorers and top 20 all-time assists leaders: Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Isiah Thomas, and ....... Reggie Theus.Career stats:18.6 ppg 4.7 apg 1.2 spg 3.3 rpg and he shot a pretty solid 47% <u>Mark Aguirre</u>How many players that averaged over 29 points in a season do we forget? Not many.Well Mark Aguirre averaged over 29 points per game in the 1983-1984 NBA season. He finished the season with 2,330 total points. Both Mavericks single-season scoring records still stand today. One of the league's most flashy and prolific scorers. He actually averages over 20 ppg for his entire 13 year NBA career.Most that do remember him remember his days in Dallas teaming with Rolando Blackman. However he helped lead the Detroit Pistons to 2 consecutive NBA titles.<u>Not to be forgotten:</u>Bernard KingArtis GilmoreDennis Johnson
Another guy who, to me atleast, seem that they forget about is Glen rice, that guy had one of the purset oustide jump shots, he was a lot of fun to watch and won a ring with Lakers. He also put up some nasty seasons Miami, Charlotte, and LA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 11 2006, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Another guy who, to me atleast, seem that they forget about is Glen rice, that guy had one of the purset oustide jump shots, he was a lot of fun to watch and won a ring with Lakers. He also put up some nasty seasons Miami, Charlotte, and LA.</div>Then he thought he was everything and demanded a trade from LA, went to the Knicks, and everything went downhill from there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 12 2006, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Another guy who, to me atleast, seem that they forget about is Glen rice, that guy had one of the purset oustide jump shots, he was a lot of fun to watch and won a ring with Lakers. He also put up some nasty seasons Miami, Charlotte, and LA.</div>Great call bro. Alot of people tend to forget Glen Rice had 7 20 point per game seasons. Those are some amazing numbers. I loved what he did in LA in there championship season. He was a pretty decent 3rd option behind Shaq and Kobe. He got so many open looks it was unreal.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Then he thought he was everything and demanded a trade from LA, went to the Knicks, and everything went downhill from there.</div>I agree. How can you demand a trade from a team that just won you your only championship of your career? After he demanded the trade and landed in New York his numbers significantly dropped and stayed low for the rest of his career. Im just wondering if anybody knows if Glen Rice is on the Clippers playoff roster?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Im just wondering if anybody knows if Glen Rice is on the Clippers playoff roster?</div>Wow, I never knew that, after the trade demand he statistically disappeared. It's to bad, he couldve been a force in the NBA for a few more seasons had he stuck with the Lakers :rock:
Definitely Bill Walton. I can't stand him announcing but he was an all-time great who was an exceptional rebounder, very good scorer, good team player, and very unselfish. Also, he really is a nice guy, he just happens to go off on random topics some time lol.But also, GRANT HILL. People forget how unbelievably great Hill was before he begun his streak of injury problems. People have called Kobe, LeBron, Vince, etc. the next Jordan. Before all that, it was all about Grant Hill. I hate to compare just from stats but look at these numbers: 21.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, and 7.3 apg in his 3rd year in the league! He only missed 17 games in his 1st 5 years and he only missed 8 games in his 6th year. Then he goes to Orlando, and misses 78 games. It's a damn shame really. On top of all that, he's a world class person. Great guy, great with his family, and very intellegent guy. I love Grant Hill.I agree with Glen Rice. Boy, could he shoot. He was a great scorer; could score from anywhere on the court. Well deserving 3 time All-Star (or was it 4).How about Mark Jackson? He was one of the best pure PG's in league history. He was an incredible assist man who could dish any amount of assists he wanted, could penetrate, excellent ballhandler, underrated defender.
It;s too bad Grant Hill stayed on top of his health, he is a great player and ranks among the top if he is healthy
If you mention Glen Rice, Larry Johnson likely comes to mind as well when they played together in Charlotte along with Alonzo Mourning. Johnson put up some nice numbers in his Charlotte years..<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 12 2006, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Definitely Bill Walton. I can't stand him announcing but he was an all-time great who was an exceptional rebounder, very good scorer, good team player, and very unselfish. Also, he really is a nice guy, he just happens to go off on random topics some time lol.But also, GRANT HILL. People forget how unbelievably great Hill was before he begun his streak of injury problems. People have called Kobe, LeBron, Vince, etc. the next Jordan. Before all that, it was all about Grant Hill. I hate to compare just from stats but look at these numbers: 21.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, and 7.3 apg in his 3rd year in the league! He only missed 17 games in his 1st 5 years and he only missed 8 games in his 6th year. Then he goes to Orlando, and misses 78 games. It's a damn shame really. On top of all that, he's a world class person. Great guy, great with his family, and very intellegent guy. I love Grant Hill.I agree with Glen Rice. Boy, could he shoot. He was a great scorer; could score from anywhere on the court. Well deserving 3 time All-Star (or was it 4).How about Mark Jackson? He was one of the best pure PG's in league history. He was an incredible assist man who could dish any amount of assists he wanted, could penetrate, excellent ballhandler, underrated defender.</div>Second all-time in assists, actually, right behind Stockton, a guy he played with in his time in Utah..
Michael Cooper is a good name you dont hear a lot about, He was probably the greatest perimeter player at shutting down a fast break, and the definition of the 80s style of defense. Without him, I gurantee the Showtime Lakers would have never gotten past the Pistons or Celtics.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 12 2006, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not sure if this counts, but Mitch Richmond. I don't hear much about him anymore.</div> Your right. That guy was amazing, every year he put up 23 or so points and put up Ray Allen numbers. He has over 20,000 points. His stats here.http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mitch_richmond/
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ May 12 2006, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your right. That guy was amazing, every year he put up 23 or so points and put up Ray Allen numbers. He has over 20,000 points. His stats here.http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mitch_richmond/</div>yeah, was one of my favouite players not playing for the Suns.
How about Alex English? No one ever heres about that dude.He averaged 21.5 ppg, 3 apg and 5.5 rpg top go long with 50 percent shooting. He had a great stroke and knew how to score. He is definately forgotten.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ May 12 2006, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im just wondering if anybody knows if Glen Rice is on the Clippers playoff roster?</div>I actually knew that, I was looking at a pre-game thing for a Clippers/Nuggets game and I was amazed to find him on the roster.Good article Tony, but I really have to agree with Milgod in saying Mitch Richmond should be up there, just look at the stats. 3.90 3.5 1.24 .26 2.64 2.60 21.0He was a great scorer for the Kings.
Also, Alex English is deserves a mention. This guy was amazing. He had over 25,000 points in his career, averages 21 per game and 24 in the playoffs. He is, IMO, the best player ever to put on a Nuggets jersey. He is in the HoF, but still, you never hear his name anymore.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa @ May 13 2006, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Johnson needs to be on a list.And dude, how old are you? Did you even see this guys play?</div>KJ should be there for sure. I kinda forget that he isn't talked about that much as I watch my old Suns tapes so much hes fresh in my mind.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LUD @ May 12 2006, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also, Alex English is deserves a mention. This guy was amazing. He had over 25,000 points in his career, averages 21 per game and 24 in the playoffs. He is, IMO, the best player ever to put on a Nuggets jersey. He is in the HoF, but still, you never hear his name anymore.</div>I have NO idea how I overlooked him being a Nuggets fan. He is the 7th best scorer in NBA HISTORY.I dont know how that gets overlooked.
Killa's pick of KJ is a good one, he was awesome in Phoenix, one of my favorite players in the league to watch.
don't forget Detlef Schrempf everyone, he may have not had the most impressive numbers, but he had all the intangibles going for him and was a force in Seattle's Payton, Kemp, Schrempf era.
