Four games in, time to check in on our Blazers!

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  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Oh, CJ...

    Also, where's Zach? Is he sooooo white that he blends into the table?
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I doubt CJ really works on his defense beyond the basics because there’s no reason he shouldn’t be at least average. He’s a smart guy. He’s not small. He’s not slow. I don’t see anything that would prohibit him from at least improving. Compare him to Dame, who gets better every season. CJ needs to be held accountable just like everyone else, but that’s more on Stotts. Olshey isn’t trading him, so it’s the least this organization could do.


    My only other takeaway is Hood needs more plays run for him. 9 field goals a game isn’t enough. Less CJ, more Hood ok thanks.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Good point where tf is he
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Maybe he's so good defensively he's not even on the chart...

    Probably not, but that's what I'm gonna tell myself.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Prolly doesn't meet min sample size. But then again, G Trent is on there. Weird. I think I see a white shoulder behind Whiteside. Maybe that's him?

    So this is saying we'd be better on both ends if CJ/Simons simply sat on the bench. Ouch.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    What is defensive points saved? Blocks+Steals? Because if so that's an awful representation of overall defense.
     
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    NBA Math has this formula partly using an adjusted DBPM among other things. Personally I don't like their formula but some people swear by it.
     
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    There's plenty of other (better imo) stats that paint a prettier picture of CJ's defense. Most notably RPM, RAPM and PIPM

    And considering size for position and offensive workload, his ranks in those stats are fairly impressive.
     
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    I miss you posting regularly! Always enjoy reading your basketball takes even if I disagree.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    He's too busy chasing that Fantasy Trophy
     
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    4 games in.....and one single lob to a guy who is 7'1" with a 7'7" wingspan (thank you Baze). Seems like they might be missing some opportunities there. Some very easy ones.
     
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    Updated, pretty sure Zach’s in there too.

     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    This graph is a hilarious encapsulation of the season so far.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    None of our guys are good at lob passes. (The ones that have been thrown have been comically bad) Saying "how hard could a lob be?" doesn't make it any easier for them.
     
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    So, if I read this correctly, CJ is by far our worst player, and we should regret that we didn't trade him a long time ago?
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Also, we're 20th in ORTG, 19th in DRTG, 14th in Net rating.

    bleh
     

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