fourth and two

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  1. Big Frame

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    The right call is to go for it. 60% of the time, it works all the time

    http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/11/belichicks-4th-down-decision-vs-colts.html

    New England coach Bill Belichick is taking a lot of heat for his decision to attempt a 4th down conversion late in the game against the Colts. Indianapolis came back to win in dramatic fashion. Was the decision a good one?

    With 2:00 left and the Colts with only one timeout, a successful conversion wins the game for all practical purposes. A 4th and 2 conversion would be successful 60% of the time. Historically, in a situation with 2:00 left and needing a TD to either win or tie, teams get the TD 53% of the time from that field position. The total WP for the 4th down conversion attempt would therefore be:

    (0.60 * 1) + (0.40 * (1-0.53)) = 0.79 WP

    A punt from the 28 typically nets 38 yards, starting the Colts at their own 34. Teams historically get the TD 30% of the time in that situation. So the punt gives the Pats about a 0.70 WP.

    Statistically, the better decision would be to go for it, and by a good amount. However, these numbers are baselines for the league as a whole. You'd have to expect the Colts had a better than a 30% chance of scoring from their 34, and an accordingly higher chance to score from the Pats' 28. But any adjustment in their likelihood of scoring from either field position increases the advantage of going for it. You can play with the numbers any way you like, but it's pretty hard to come up with a realistic combination of numbers that make punting the better option. At best, you could make it a wash.


    Peyton is one of the best QB's in the NFL, and I think if he ever had the ball on his 29 yard line, he will score a TD more times then not. BUT when your rolling out with Tom Brady, and Randy Moss and you only need 2 yards? Child please Kiss da baby.
     

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