Wow. He didn't even go to Real Madrid. So Fran not only screwed us over, he screwed over Real Madrid as well. Nice guy... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In today, the Basketball Malaga S.A.D. and Akasvayu Girona has reached an agreement for the crossing of the player Fran V?zquez. Also, the Akasvayu communicates that it has reached an agreement with the mentioned player for next the four seasons. Both clubs show their satisfaction by the agreement alcanzado.El new player of the Akasvayu Girona showed the following thing: "I thank for to the Unicaja club and all its fans the treatment received during my stay in this wonderful city. I go with much illusion to a project of very serious future that is forming an equipment that in a short period of time I am convinced that he will be a great one in Liga ACB ".</div> Source It's official now. I guess it saves our two GM's some time now that we don't have to fly to Spain. What a classy guy, screwing over two teams that both thought he was coming to play for him. What a jerk. Oh and Akasvayu Girona signed him to a 4 year deal so by the time he comes over, if he does, he will be 26. Man this sucks.
Yeah Fran is an idiot but we can't dwell on it. It's over, he signed, and now we have to move on. We just need to make some trades and get help in the FA.
You know what, the more I think about it the more I think this guy did this because he wanted to increase his market value in Spain and to get a very good contract, he might even make more money during the first three years than he would with us during while in his rookie contract. Especially if you look at the exchange rate Dollar - Euro and even more when you look at the difference in cost of living. While he has a more relaxed basketball season since he's not asked to play 82 games a season but more like about 40. I don't think he'll ever come over to us. If he improves greatly, he's getting more money in Europe than what we could offer him, remember we still would have to pay him based on the rookie scale for the 11th pick. And think about this four years is a long time, basketball in Europe is still growing and hasn't yet reached its fullest potential so I think in four years the teams have more money to spent than they have now and if he proves to be worth more money he gets it over there then. In short: we won't see him play for Orlando for a long time.
I agree with you that I do not think he will come over, and play for the Magic any time in the future. I do not think bad of him of course his comments behind his reasoning were very outlandish in my opinion. The Magic front office should have done a better job scouting him. From what I understand they saw him play overseas on three separate occasions. However, they never hinted to him they were interested in obtaining him in the draft or brought him in for a draft work out. He was projected to be a top ten pick so I guess the reason those teams were passing on him is that he had informed them that he was not sure on the odds of him playing in the NBA next season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with you that I do not think he will come over, and play for the Magic any time in the future. I do not think bad of him of course his comments behind his reasoning were very outlandish in my opinion. The Magic front office should have done a better job scouting him. From what I understand they saw him play overseas on three separate occasions. However, they never hinted to him they were interested in obtaining him in the draft or brought him in for a draft work out. He was projected to be a top ten pick so I guess the reason those teams were passing on him is that he had informed them that he was not sure on the odds of him playing in the NBA next season.</div> Both sides are to blame because the Magic should have made some sort of communication with Fran and his agent before just taking a chance on him. I also read somewhere that Fran was saying from the start that he may be staying in Spain so it was no shock to the Magic front office. They needed to look into this and since they didn't we made a huge mistake on draft day. It's also Fran's fault some as well since he had been giving mixed signals all along about whether or not he would be coming to Orlando. His agent also assured the Magic that Vazquez would be in camp so it's hard to prevent a player from leaving when all along, your thinking he's going to join your team. Another thing that makes this whole situation even worse is that Fran didn't even go to Real Madrid, the team that was supposedly trying to sign him. That just shows that Fran wanted to sign anywhere but Orlando and that is probably a sign that he won't be here anytime soon like Coranor said.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Vazquez just got owned the Magic bad, lol</div> HAHA. At least our GM doesn't pay decent players $10 million more dollars then they deserve.
Man... the 11th pick strikes again. The 11th pick seems to be bad luck, looking back at all the players that were chosen at number 11. With a few exceptions. BTW, these smileys rock!
I dont think he will be welcomed here in 4 years as he was when he was 1st drafted the fans we have here are tough on players when thay give up or leave or dont give it there all when playing for us. He should look to Spain to play for his whole basketball career beacuse no fan or team can trust him to stay. I was all for seeing this guy play before judging him same with Gators but now I lost anything for this guy. Let me take his contract to play in Orlando and in the NBA I dont care if its on the bench or back-up I just wanna play, get a jersey with my last name on it and maybe cards that people will make me sign. A dream hes wasting lets hope we give a player who is more realiable and wants to play out there a chance to show what he could have shown. and Orlandoman ur right these smileys do rock
I dont think he is worth all this talk. As i said in another thread, he is the 11th pick. I dont think he could have came in and really helped us anyways. He would have had to learn the system and with the language barrier it would have taken more time. This leaves us with another roster spot to sign a FA. Somone who can come in right away and play. Plus it saves us the rookie contract for an 11th pick.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">HAHA. At least our GM doesn't pay decent players $10 million more dollars then they deserve. </div> Knicks > Magic.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Knicks > Magic.</div> New York Knicks $99,981,795 Orlando Magic $65,656,610
Are you serious? You want to kill someone just because of this? Isn't there enough hatred and violence in the world, do you really want to see this kid dead now? It's time you grew up, boy, basketball is not everything.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MickyEyez:</div><div class="quote_post">i really want fran dead now. what a waste of a pick.</div> Relax, Fran will come a more polished player if anything, its not like he's never coming back to the nba...you already have a good group of perimeter players, and Kasun should get more minutes, he's a very productive physical rebounder...and Dwight Howard will come into his sophmore year as a beast, its not like your team is in a desperate situation lol all you guys need to do is keep Hill healthy and stop Francis from causing trouble, you'll make the playoffs. What you were expecting Fran to make a major impact? I understand you guys are upset you won't get to see your lottery pick player play this year...but MORE Foreign players should do this, its smart for THEM and the future of their team if Darko, Tskivilli did this, they wouldn't be so raw and unpolished....lol you don't draft guys who don't have big roles on a team that high, I wasn't suprise to see Nico Tskvilli do so bad in the NBA, cause he didn't have alot of role experience. Vazquez is different, I'm just saying, Vazquez just feels he's not ready for the NBA, so let him go by his feelings, train, get more polished and come back a better player, which is better for your team. Plus, being the most ready Euro in the 05 draft isn't saying much, because they wasn't alot of "ready" guys it was more about potential, and Fran is pretty raw offensively and his defensive position for an 83' player, this is a good move for Fran, he'll come back a better player, and you guys wouldn't feel bad drafting him at 11.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Knicks > Magic.</div> I could start a huge debate here but lets stay on topic. Fran Vazquez is more likely going to stay in Spain for the rest of his career. He has money, fame and family over there so why would he give it up to come to the Magic. I hate to admit it but it's true. We probably will never get to see Fran in a Orlando Magic uniform and if we do it won't be for about 5 years. Some people are making a huge deal about this and acting like it ruined our season when it really hasn't. We were a pretty good team last season without Fran and have made several moves this offseason (Signing Keyon Dooling and hiring Brian Hill) that will make us even better. One player isn't going to ruin our season so let's not get to caught up in this entire Vazquez situation. Some of you guys are completely overeacting. A player made a personal decision to stay with his family and in his foriegn country. We could be disapointed or upset but talking about hating and killing a guy for this? Sheesh. It's just a game so once again, let's not get to caught up in it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">New York Knicks $99,981,795 Orlando Magic $65,656,610 </div> Not to mention New York Knicks-33-49 Orlando Magic-36-46
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">Not to mention New York Knicks-33-49 Orlando Magic-36-46</div> Also, the Knicks' stars are older players like Marbury and Crawford while the Magic have developing players that have promising futures like Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson. Dwight Howard > Channing Frye To me, I see Channing being a decent player in the NBA at best. He was supposed to be a late first pick in the draft until the Warriors overhyped him and said they would take him if they got the chance. Howard is a better scorer, rebounder and defender then Frye and will have a more successful career. Jameer Nelson > Nate Robinson Sure Nate Robinson is an extraordinary athlete and can put on a show with his highlight dunks but does this guy have what it takes to be a good point guard in the NBA? It is going to be tough for him since he is about 3 or 4 inches smaller then everyone else. I'm not saying that Nate won't have a good career and that he won't overcome all the odds and be great but I would take Jameer Nelson over him just because he is better all around.
