Franchise Players

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  1. da pimp 1

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    If you were gonna start a team who would be your franchise player? Here are some examples.

    Amare Stoudemire
    Dwyane Wade
    LeBron James
    Kobe Bryant
    Kevin Garnett
    Tim Duncan
     
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    Hmm [​IMG], looks exactly like the poll on NBA.com... And there should have been more players to choose from.
     
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    KG
    hands down
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bahir:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm [​IMG], looks exactly like the poll on NBA.com... And there should have been more players to choose from.</div>

    Those were only examples you could choose the players those are not your options.
     
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    Well, Amare Stoudamire would be no brainer out of the PF/C category. Another big man who isn't on that list that should be is Dwight Howard. I can't believe how underrated he is after the spectacular season he had. If I want a to make a SG my superstar, no doubt it would have to be LeBron or Wade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Amare Stoudamire would be no brainer out of the PF/C category. Another big man who isn't on that list that should be is Dwight Howard. I can't believe how underrated he is after the spectacular season he had. If I want a to make a SG my superstar, no doubt it would have to be LeBron or Wade.</div>

    It's not a real list it's just examples of some players. You name the ones that you want.
     
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    I would take Tim Duncan because he is a great player and is a proven winner. You can't go wrong with a guy who has several titles and has experience in the post season.
     
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    yeah, i would take Tim Duncan too , he is just winner and one of the best players in nba.I agree with u Swish15, u cant go wrong with this guy.
     
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    I'd take Tim Duncan.
     
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    Are we choosing these players when they are young at the age of 20 or at their real ages? If everyones out of college/HS i'd take duncan or garnett. If its their real ages right now i'd take Amare.
     
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    I'd have to say Shaq if it were right of college. He's just too dominant, and no one can stop him. Dump the ball down to him every possession.
    "Shaq should be getting the ball even when he doesn't want it." -Charles Barkley

    The best NBA player today. Period.
     
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    Duncan, he makes life easier for everyone except the other 29 NBA teams.
     
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    I have to go with Shaq he won three rings with kobe. put Shaq with a player thats more of a team player then Kobe (which would be t-mac). then shaq will have two hands full of rings.
     
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    Is this just a fantasy lineup or something?
     
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    ginobli cuz he can shoot and drive and open up other people
     
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    'nuff said
     
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    For now I'd have to go with Duncan. He is the best player currently in the NBA right now closely followed by Shaq IMO. You can't go wrong when selecting Duncan.

    For the future I'd eaither pick Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, or Dwight Howard. Dwight Howard averaged 12 and 10 out of highschool. Not even the great Kevin Garnett got those numbers right away. This guys gonig to be gone and of course we've all seen what Wade and LeBron are capable now and in the future.
     
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    Ive said this since i joined this and have even written my own article about it. But i still agree that Duncan has been the best player in the NBA for 3 years now. His team barely missed out last year! We all remember the 0.4!

    Heres my article by the way.

    <font size="5"><u>Franchise Players</u></font>
    Trying to build that dynasty team just seems hard these days. The Lakers built their 4 superstars mega team and still were unable to beat the Detroit Pistons. The only thing that really kept them in the running through the playoffs was a lucky shot from Derek Fischer versus the San Antonio Spurs and an injury depleted Minnesota Timberwolves were in trouble against Shaq and Kobe, even with Kevin Garnett. The Lakers had built a more then perfect team but against a full strength Detroit team couldn?t pull out any lucky shots. So then if you can have the most dominant player in the game, and a player said to be (the god) Michael Jordan?s heir, plus a player second on the All time Scoring list, and finally a former Defensive Player of the year and an 8 Time All Defensive Team player, and still lose the title?????.Something has got to be wrong. For a team to have these great players and still lose says something about the league today. If a team is looking to build a franchise, how many superstars do they need?

    One would probably be fine. Two, yes your going to have a great team. Any more? After the Lakers collapse I am not entirely sure. Shaq and Kobe worked well, but these two mega stars really started clashing heads. You really have to look at today?s youth of the NBA and try and build a dynasty around your franchise player. Is youth the Answer? Speaking of answers, a certain Allen Iverson and Philadelphia did very well when building a franchise team, but after one year collapsed. Toronto looked very capable of doing the same as Philly did with Vince Carter at the helm of the Toronto Ship, but the organisation couldn?t build a team quick enough for the stars liking.

    Out of today?s star players, whom would you build a team around right now?


    Shaquelle O?Neal
    WHY
    He isn?t called the most dominant player in the league for nothing. When you move from 3 teams and take each team to the finals, it has to say something. Just look at the kind of numbers he puts up. 28ppg, 8rpg, 5apg. Franchise numbers if you ask me. All that is needed is a point guard to get him the ball. Dwayne Wade has been doing that. And some shooters from downtown. Miami has to many to list. His winning percentage is a fascinating thing as well. He has a 70% winning percentage in regular season games. Doing the mathematics, with him in the team a 57-25 season is a regular thing. Which will mean playoff time and in the playoffs he is also very experienced. He is also a sponsor?s dream, with a personality that seems to flock people to him.

    WHY NOT
    When Shaq is injured, the team must play a totally different style of basketball. The team doesn?t have that guy inside who can play that post game and give the outside shooters their game. The team will collapse unless a player like a Dwayne Wade is there to fill up those valuable stats. Also because of his age, he may have to retire down the line some time. Which will leave a big gap in the team.


    Tim Duncan
    WHY
    Tim Duncan is a versatile player who can play any postposition and free up any other players on the court. He is also a great user of the basics of basketball, such as using the glass in his shot. He is also a very hard worker on the defensive end and makes his whole team better defensively. Not only is he a great player, but also in terms of personality, you wouldn?t want a better player for your club. He isn?t one to show emotion, and doesn?t have an ego, like some players today. Tim also has a very good knack for hitting tough shots when they count, the last plays of the game.

    WHY NOT
    As the same as Shaq, unless someone is there to pick up scoring and fill that post spot, he is a very major loss if something such as an injury were to happen. Also because of Tim?s non-emotive personality, he isn?t a huge pull for sponsors, who seem to go for personality then game play these days. Also again his age comes into it, but Tim is still young.


    Kevin Garnett
    WHY
    When you think of your average power forward, you think of a guy not tall enough to play that centre roll, but still tall enough to play in the post. Kevin cannot only play PF, but also the SF position, which he has done on numerous occasions. He is player who can play as the heavy scorer, play maker or the guy who needs to do the little things. Whatever is needed on the court, this man can do. Kevin can dribble as a guard, post as a PF/C, pass like a point guard, grab those boards and still make that last play shot to win the game. No he isn?t a 6ft 6 guy like a certain Michael Jordan. He does this at the height of 6ft 11. No that isn?t a mistype. Kevin is the most versatile player in the league, and may be ever. He can play any position needed and can fill a role with ease.

    WHY NOT
    To be quite honest, not a lot can be said here, unless the team has someone who can fill up the numbers he puts up, the team will mostly struggle without him.


    Tracy McGrady
    WHY
    Another versatile player with the ability to take over games any times he wants. He has shown he is a winner against the spurs with an outburst of 13 points in 35 seconds to win the game. I would?ve left at the 1-minute mark. Now I won?t leave till that final siren sounds. He has the shooters ability to hit numerous 3?s in a game, and can also take it to the rim with authority. His game is getting better and his scoring ability is much better then when he first entered the league.

    WHY NOT
    He has shown his ability to win but I don?t feel T-Mac gives his all when playing. Sometimes you will just seem he start to slacken off a bit in defence and the whole team becomes affected.


    Allen Iverson
    WHY
    This man can score 50 points on you like it?s a walk in the park! They don?t call him the answer for nothing. He can drive to the hoop and make the spectacular basketball. He can shoot it from the outside. He can even give away some of the best assists imaginable. He can be a team player when needed, and also take the load if need be. The man is a freakish player.

    WHY NOT
    He hasn?t always been a happy person with coaches, and hasn?t been quiet about it either. He sometimes does bring a bad reputation upon him self and the team.


    Lebron James
    WHY
    What he does on the court, I get shivers down my spin watching him sometimes. Lebron can fly like a bird. He has even added outside shooting to his game and great playmaking ability. He is only 20 years old people! He has another 15 years in him and with his improvement potential, it?s going to start getting very scary.

    WHY NOT
    His lack of concentration of defence has hurt his team into not making finals this year. Bad defence equals Bad Offence. Larry Brown would be disgusted if you ask me. What is needed is the ability to pick up his defence and make his team better defensively other wise other teams will be able to score to easily.


    Dirk Nowitzki
    WHY
    This guy is a shotting gun. He will hit you with a barrage of 3 pointers and you still will be thinking of what to do to stop him. He aint no average shooting guard either, he is a 7ft power forward with a tremendous ability to stroke it from down town. And because of this, it?s impossible to guard him. You can?t jump and block a 7ft player! Unless you are 7ft and when those bigger guys try to guard him, he uses his quickness to take it to the hoop. Offensive machine and beginning to prove he plays defence as well.

    WHY NOT
    A very huge loss in scoring without him. Can turn the game on its head when he becomes hot from the outside but without him there, the team may struggle unless some one is there to fill the gaps.


    Vince Carter
    WHY
    He is the Mr. Amazing. He can leap tall centres in a single bound. He is a terror from the outside and will break your ankles and create a new poster out of you if you let him. He is a great player with a tremendous leaping ability like no other. Even now that he is older, he has lost a couple of inches in his leap, but it doesn?t stop him making posters. He can do it all. Shoot, pass, rebound. He is a swingman and is able to play any position that?s needed and that?s why they call him a swingman. He is able to put up 45 points if needed night after night, or give you 10 assists if needed.

    WHY NOT
    He has been outspoken in the past saying he didn?t play to his 100% capability in Toronto, and you may never be sure if he puts in 100% because of what he said. Without this numbers man, the team would also struggle through injuries unless someone is there to pick up the workload.


    Kobe Bryant
    WHY
    He is said to be the next big thing, well that was before Lebron, but he has certainly lived up to that name. He has a shooting, driving game that anyone would kill for. He has the hang time that makes you hold your breath when he glides to the hoop. He has always been a sweet shooter from the outside as well. Wonder what to do in crunch time? Give this man the ball and he will make something for you. He will give you a shot at winning the game!

    WHY NOT
    Kobe?s past will always be haunting him. The rape case and Shaq arguments are just a start, but I?m not going to go into detail there. Also when there is an open man, Kobe doesn?t seem to want to pass the ball, and when he does, his teammates are somewhat surprised to be getting the pass. Also he seems to want to take a certain number of shots a game, even with 3 hands in his face he will shot the ball. He needs to learn how to pass before he becomes the superstar that everyone says he is.

    And finally?


    Andrew Bogut
    WHY
    Sorry, he is still undrafted, and hasn?t proved anything yet, but I?m an Aussie so I got to mention him! He has the passing ability and game of a Tim Duncan and can become a great asset to any team looking to set up a post game. Whoever does get him will benefit greatly. And the one thing that is against Shaq, Youth.

    WHY NOT
    Why not? He is an Aussie, what?s not to like about him? He hasn?t proved himself yet and it will be a major step from college to the big time.
     
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    ^That was a great post man.
     
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    Amare or KG
     

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