Free Agent Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Jul 9, 2021.

  1. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Oubre was having a fantastic year with Phoenix the year before. He was their poster child for The Valley Jersey. GS was a bad fit. I think he would be determined to prove them wrong.
     
  2. wizenheimer

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    LOL...yeah, this is what it has come too

    after all those weeks talking about Simmons, & Siakam, & Grant, & Beal, & even guys like Nance & Myles Turner....we're now talking Zeller, Snell, and Millsap. The ice-cold bath of Olshey-reality
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Not following your logic. Why does one have anything to do with the other?
     
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  4. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    If Simmons is traded to GS, and we cannot acquire Siakam, i still have hopes for Tobias Harris. A Nurk, Harris, RoCo, Powell, and Dame starting lineup is pretty nice. Backups potentially Milsap, Oubre, Nas, Ant, and Zeller. That has a chance to be pretty damn good on the low side, and great on the high.
     
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    exactly, its free agency and theres not much options left

    we still hope for a cj mccollum trade
     
  6. wizenheimer

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    Portland already has 13 players signed. So we're talking about one of those or both to be 14 or 14/15

    and yeah yeah, I know...Olshey has trades lined up...just wait, and don't bitch until we see what those trades are

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    that's almost 8 months away....yeah, let's give Olshey till then before we judge what he's done
     
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    For sure Dame is leaving
     
  8. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He's had 9 years. I'm not sure what else can change in 8 months that hasn't already been shown.
     
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    If you’re ownership you can’t give him until the deadline because that misses the ship.

    You’ve got to have time to fire & replace him and let the new GM swing deadline deals.
     
  10. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Realistically he's not getting fired until the end of the season. If he does get fired, it's probably because we got ousted in the first or second round again, and the new GM's first priority is to blow this thing up.

    If the alternative is to just run it back, I'd rather just blow it up now. Portland will only have 4 players under contract next season: Dame, CJ, Nas and Norm. If we blow it up in a year, it would mean losing out on getting something for both Covington and Nurkic. Possibly Simons as well.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm starting to come around to just nuking it completely, firing Neil, and starting fresh.

    I'm not convinced that Neil can put a contender around Dame at this point. Dame's value is never going to be higher. I'm tired of this cloud hanging over the organization.
     
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    1) Contesting shots (standing reach) isn't of value?

    2) Taller players don't play defense with their arms fully extended horizontally any more than shorter players with longer arms do.
     
  13. wizenheimer

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    not compared to reflex, reaction time, and verticals

    which is why assuming stand-still wingspan measurements mean better defense is kind of loopy

    when it comes to defense, height, size, strength, reflex, reaction time, speed, lateral mobility, experience, BBIQ are all more important than arm length
     
  14. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Listening to Jake Fischer on Spotify:

    The Blazers-- the situation right now. Everyone around the league is waiting on Dame to return from Tokyo. He said it on the record that the roster isn't good enough to win a championship, but the team is just making moves around the edges. They have been so far resistant to trading CJ. There were definite talks around Siakam/CJ but they didn't get very far with how highly that franchise values CJ. As such, the expectation around the league is that once Dame gets back, there might still be a potential trade request if the Blazers don't make major moves-- but there is nothing on the horizon.
     
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  15. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Oh boy. Fischer just dropped a bomb in such a casual fashion

    Fischer on Simmons:

    There is a much higher value/opinion of Ben among the NBA front offices than in the media. And Morey is just waiting on Dame. Simmons could be someone that Blazer management/fans could sell to ownership as a guy to build around if Dame demands a trade. There is a very real possibility that the Blazers could be up for sale soon, so this could be a point to consider f Dame wants out.
     
  16. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's a whole lot of words to just say "maybe"
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    or it's confirmation of Olshey's continued reluctance to take risks
     
  18. Pinwheel1

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    You can bitch all you want. I am just pointing out that this particular bitch session is pointless. This is the same conversation we all have been having the whole week. Your attempt at discrediting Neil for allegedly going after Oubre or Millsap (for the Mid-level) to strengthen the bench has nothing to do with the All-Stars you mentioned. But hey vent away for the 1000th time, I am sure a few here enjoy it.
     
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  19. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Me too. But that decision wasn't about talent or ability. It was about money, and I hope to try to leave room to help us get a player better than the two of them put together.

    :cheers:
     
  20. wizenheimer

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    LOL....geeeeezuz
     

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