Frye, "I'm Not Soft!" <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Channing Frye defends himself against the "soft" label with the same vigor he defends the lane against a penetrating point guard. Frye, the Knicks' new 6-foot-11 center, has been touted as an athletic big man who can run the floor and get easy transition baskets, a nice shotblocker with a 7-3 wingspan, an active rebounder, good jump shooter with great character. There's another word that crops up in the scouting report: "soft." "What's your definition of soft?" Frye said yesterday after summer-league practice in Westchester. "People have been called soft. Name something I do as soft? I just don't feel I emulate that." Knick president Isiah Thomas never thought so either, and targeted Frye in May at No. 8 after the draft lottery. "It's definitely a motivator because you feel you try to play the game right and they call you soft," Frye said. "There isn't anything I do that promotes the word soft. Do I miss practice? No. Do I not play hard? No. Do I miss any games? No. Do I back down from bigger guys? No. That's all right. I have to earn my name." Frye has participated in three days of summer-league practice. Today, the Knicks fly to Las Vegas for five summer-league games, then to Minneapolis for five more. </div> Source
Prove to me you can play around the basket and be a defensive force, till now, this is all talk, since Fyre is talking alot of smack, he better step his game up quickly.
What do you think he is going to say about himself? "Yes I confess, I am a soft player..." I'll wait until he goes out and proves that he isn't a soft player but for now, I'll say yes he is a bit soft...
Anyone go to espn.com and listen to Isiah Thomas' talk with Dan Patrick. He said that if he had the #1 pick he would have taken Frye over Bogut... lmao. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/index# then click on "What does Isiah Thomas have planned for the Knicks? Dan Patrick had to ask."
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone go to espn.com and listen to Isiah Thomas' talk with Dan Patrick. He said that if he had the #1 pick he would have taken Frye over Bogut... lmao. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/index# then click on "What does Isiah Thomas have planned for the Knicks? Dan Patrick had to ask."</div> That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Channing Frye defends himself against the "soft" label with the same vigor he defends the lane against a penetrating point guard. </div> Guys, he isn't soft; he's more than willing to body up on a point guard. j/k
Of course Isiah is going to make the claim he would take Frye over Bogut, especially now that the draft is over. He wants to support the player he chose and boost his confidence level. I liked how Herb Williams broke it down in his assessment of Frye. He said Frye needs to learn how to hold his position better on defense instead of relying on blocking the shot. This article mentioned Frye is only 250, but some have reported he's 270, and the 20lbs makes a huge difference. Knick fans think Isiah is slowly trying to put together a faster, more athletic team on the floor. With Isiah's pursuit of Swift and Kwame Brown, I don't think he plans on using Frye at Center. A proposed deal was Sweetney + fillers for Kwame Brown in a sign and trade. This would allow Frye to play the 4, and Brown at the 5, giving the Knicks a very long, athletic frontline, to go with a quick backcourt. It's a huge risk to start those two, but the Knicks have enough depth in the frontcourt to tinker around. PG - Marbury SG - Crawford SF - Q Rich PF - Frye C - Brown Another rumor today in Insider had the Knicks shopping Marbury, Thomas around, possibly for Dalembert, Mashburn, McKie, and Ollie. More farfetched than the Kwame-Sweetney deal, probably just a made up deal by Ford. Still Isiah is definitely in the search for an athletic Center whether it's Swift (masquerading as one), Kwame, or Dalembert, I'm sure he has his eye on Chandler also even though there's no chance the Bulls don't bring him back.
About the Frye/Bogut thing from Isiah - it was simply getting Frye confidence as Shape said. I think if Isiah was in the position in which he could choose #1, he would grab Bogut. He knows better. I saw the same thing on ESPN.com, but unfortunately, I don't have Insider. Anyway, if I'm going to give up Marbury, I certainly want more value than Samuel Dalembert; especially if I'm giving up a player of Marbury's caliber to a division rival. Do people realize depending on the success of the Sixers, it will greatly effect whether we can make it to the postseason? Let's face it guys - like it or not, Marbury is still one of the best players in the league and despite many people calling him "selfish" he gives you 8 assists every night to go along with 20 points. Dalembert is good and I would definitely welcome a shotblocker as would any Knick fan, but there is a reason why we drafted Frye. It was to give us a center and stop it with all of these PF's. If we force Frye to power forward, what will that do to David Lee? Malik, JYD, and Mo' aren't going anywhere with their contracts, so we're stuck with them for the time being. I would only deal my expiring contracts (preferably Penny) for Dalembert and I would only do this move if Sweetney is gone. We should/can get more value for Sweetney than Kwame Brown. Yes, he is loaded with potential, but he has shown no signs in wanting to turn into the great player everyone knows he can be. At least with Sweetney, we know we're getting a hard working, solid big man. He seems like he's going to have a double-double future and Kwame looks like he's going to have a terrible future; so I would want much more value if I'm giving up my 9th overall pick a couple of years ago. A trade in which we can unload Sweetney and one of our PF's not named Lee for a serviceable big man, is what we should do. Btw - due to my computer being so terrible, I won't be able to post as much as I usually do for a long time. I also won't be able to go on AIM either.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">About the Frye/Bogut thing from Isiah - it was simply getting Frye confidence as Shape said. I think if Isiah was in the position in which he could choose #1, he would grab Bogut. He knows better.</div> Isiah needs to lay off the lying though, he would be worse than Tribute could describe if he were to pick Frye with a #1 overall pick. Isiah always seems to be trying to find a great trade that will send NY to the playoffs, however it seems every time he has gotten approximately the same value he has sent, except the team chemistry gets shattered. I hope you guys keep Sweetney, Ariza, Crawford, Nate, and Frye. Hopefully they can build some chemistry together eventually. I don't think that a Kwame sign and trade for Sweetney would be wise, Kwame doesn't seem like a hard-worker and could taint other players on NY, except for JYD, he is the anti-Kwame!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Isiah needs to lay off the lying though, he would be worse than Tribute could describe if he were to pick Frye with a #1 overall pick.</div> He would be lynched by angry New Yorkers if he chose Frye with the #1 pick. Don't think of it as "lying" think of it as building confidence for our center of the future. Isiah is just letting Frye know that he has his support. Besides, how would Frye feel if Isiah said "You know what? Just so you know, Channing, if I had the #1 pick in the draft, I would have chosen Bogut over you." That wouldn't sound too nice; would it? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Isiah always seems to be trying to find a great trade that will send NY to the playoffs, however it seems every time he has gotten approximately the same value he has sent, except the team chemistry gets shattered.</div> Of course making the playoffs is his goal as is many GM?s in the league, however, much of what Isiah does is based on the future such as the Mohammed deal where he got two first rounders. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I hope you guys keep Sweetney, Ariza, Crawford, Nate, and Frye. Hopefully they can build some chemistry together eventually. I don't think that a Kwame sign and trade for Sweetney would be wise, Kwame doesn't seem like a hard-worker and could taint other players on NY, except for JYD, he is the anti-Kwame!</div> I love Sweetney, but unfortunately, his stay in New York will be brief. Isiah is getting, faster, and more athletic and guys such as Sweetney are more halfcourt oriented. Plus the drafting of David Lee was evidence enough of Isiah trying to unload the Sweet Man. I agree with you that we can get more for Kwame and unless we get Blatche in the deal as well, I would not accept the trade, but if it?s just Sweetney/fillers for Brown/fillers than I wouldn?t pull the trigger.
I think it all boils down to what defines a "soft player". But as was said above, we'll have to see what happens next season or even tommorow in the summer leagues for those who live in New York.
We don't really need to wait. How can a player change his style of play from 4 years of college basketball playing the way he plays, and changing it in 2 months... can't do it son. He's gonna play like he did in college which some peopel call "soft." We'll see when the season actually starts though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">He would be lynched by angry New Yorkers if he chose Frye with the #1 pick. Don't think of it as "lying" think of it as building confidence for our center of the future. Isiah is just letting Frye know that he has his support. Besides, how would Frye feel if Isiah said "You know what? Just so you know, Channing, if I had the #1 pick in the draft, I would have chosen Bogut over you." That wouldn't sound too nice; would it?</div> It would be honest, and seems like common sense. If Frye was drafted by a no-nonsense guy like Pat Riley, I'm sure Riley would have told the truth when asked that question.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">We don't really need to wait. How can a player change his style of play from 4 years of college basketball playing the way he plays, and changing it in 2 months... can't do it son. He's gonna play like he did in college which some peopel call "soft." We'll see when the season actually starts though.</div> What would you consider soft?