Game Thread Game #18 - BLAZERS VS NUGGETS - NOVEMBER 23, 2021 - TUESDAY - 7:00 PM (PDT) TNT

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Who should replace Neil Olshey if he's fired?

  1. Danny Ainge

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  2. Brent Barry

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  3. Bill Branch

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  4. Other (Specify)

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  5. He shouldn't be fired

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  1. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    I'm not crapping on Nurk, but how many of his minutes are combined with Dame? +/- is a really flawed way to evaluate the impact of a player for a single game.

    Jeff Green had a very solid night, but had the second worse +/- of anyone.
     
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    that’s why Jeff green is on a different team every year.
     
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    drives me nuts.
     
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    Van Gundy is probably too old school to be flattered by pretty garbage time buckets. Coaches don’t think in terms of the flash and care more about the substance.
     
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    Because his +/- isn't propped up by Dame?
     
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    Because he’s empty stats. Nurks impact goes beyond the stat sheet. Unfortunately there are a lot of dummies that don’t realize it.
     
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    20 points win against short hands. Good. Now show some balls away from home and let's see some Barkley's talk.
     
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    What do you think Nurk will command on the market this summer from the GM who values his skills the most? $20m/year? Has to be a lot for someone with all his intangiables, right?
     
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    Took the NBA about three decades to figure out that three pointers are really good.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Aren’t all road games, trap games for this years Blazers team?
     
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    why does optimism disturb you so?

    not trying to start anything, honestly asking. Is it because then sometimes the optimists cry when we lose?

    i mean i can see the huge drop of emotions for some, if so, but otherwise i consider optimism a good thing.
    Glass half full is better than glass half empty, isn't it?
     
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    Dames shot is back!!!

    nice win!! No win streak thread???

    Fuck it. Ill streak in your living room then!!

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    Here you go. Plus minus per 100 possessions for various combos of Nurk & Dame:
    2017 to 2021 | Nurk & Dame | Possessions 10,492 | Plus/Minus +867 | Per 100 +8.3
    2017 to 2021 | Dame Only | Possessions 12,785 | Plus/Minus +303 | Per 100 +2.4
    2017 to 2021 | Nurk Only | Possessions 1,316 | Plus/Minus -78 | Per 100 -5.9
    2017 to 2021 | Neither | Possessions 8,652 | Plus/Minus -461 | Per 100 -5.3

    - Almost 90% of Nurk's possessions are with Dame on the floor.
    - Nurk & Dame is +8.3 per 100.
    - Nurk Only is -5.9 per 100.
    - That is a huge drop off BUT it is way too small a sample (-5.9 +/- 6.0 per 100 at 2 standard deviations).
    - Baseline Neither at -5.3 per 100 but is mostly vs 2nd units while Nurk Only faces starters.

    The biggest thing I see is that Dame drops a lot without Nurk. Dame & Nurk are +8.3 while Dame Only drops to +2.4. Large samples for both numbers. Also Dame & Nurk is going to be vs tougher opposition than Dame Only as the latter will have a larger portion vs 2nd units.
     
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    Blazers forced 17 Turnovers. As a team the got 7 Blocks with 3 of them coming from RoCo.
    Between Roco and Powell they came up with or forced 10 of those turnovers. RoCo also had 7 boards and a couple assists.
    Billups made a good decision to ride with Little and Roco a bit more last night.
    Zeller is looking worse and worse all the time? He works hard I'll give him that but wow? IMO way too much talk about moving CJ or Nurk and nowhere near enough about trying to find a solid piece to replace Zeller for better depth.
     
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    I’d be surprised if Portland didn’t look to upgrade from Zeller. Nance has looked good as a backup five but we’ve also played a stretch of teams who lacked size or were missing their bigs.
     
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    Because Zeller is a backup and whatever we get there most likely will affect us only a little. Especially since Nance plays well as C it's not a big need.
    When we talk about CJ we hope it's not a lateral move and it will change the way our team is constructed with Powell going to SG. We hope for more ball movement, better D etc
     
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    Bring back Kanter!!!!
     

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