This is one of the most retarded piles of tripe I have ever read.<ul>[*]The World Baseball Classic was trash. It was a completely meaningless tournament. (Mike Piazza on Team Italy? WHAT?) There is no reason for an aging star like Sheffield to play in that.[*]The author made no case for why Sheffield is "dangerous."[*]Milwaukee was a horrid place to play in the 90's. I can't say that I'd agree with Gary's attitude on that, but it's far from dangerous and barely moronic.[*]Gary stated an opinion on what is going on in the MLB with black players. His Latino teammate (I forget off the top of my head which one) agreed with Sheffield's statement. To suspend Sheffield would have been a horrid violation of free speech.[/list]I'm not saying that Gary is a genius or better than any other athlete out there, but what he said was at worst controversial and at best an opinion explaning a phenomenon. I couldn't care less what some nobody at ESPN has to say about him.
That article was written 20 days ago, why post it today?But Yeah..it was written by the real moron. Sheffield expressed an opinion...an opinion that the writer didn't even begin to argue..because in SOME form or another it is true...to what extent though is debatable.Then he calls Sheff a dolt. Great journalism.Sheffield never apologized for anything btw, he only restated his opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SBoyd415 @ Jun 25 2007, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're taking the term "dangerous moron" way too far...It's just a phrase and has nothing to do with actually being dangerous. As for Sheffield, he's easily one of the biggest idiots in the game today. Most of the time he speaks without thinking, and of course he apologized for his comments a couple days later like the author predicted. What Sheffield was basically saying is that there are more Latinos than blacks because the Latinos won't "talk back" and obey orders without question. To me, that's just stupid to say. It can't be proven true or false, but he really has to think before he speaks. (Same goes for Giambi)</div>No no, he's the one who is taking the term way too far. Like Combs said, the author is the true moron. He shuts out a player for stating an opinion, brings up irrelevant problems that Sheffield had in the past, asserted that Sheffield would become a problem for the Tigers, and implied that Sheffield was as bad as TO, which is just hilarious in the sense that it is such an idiotic comparison.Sheffield is the biggest idiot easily, huh? I would venture to say that there are other players and even other managers that are worse. This writer cited two other incidents... one over a decade old, and another about a relatively meaningless baseball tournament.Like I said, Carlos Guillen agreed with Sheffield:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Detroit Tigers outfielder Gary Sheffield insists he meant "nothing derogatory" toward Latin players when he said recently that Major League Baseball found it easier to "control them" than black players.However, teammate Carlos Guillen said he was happy Sheffield said what he said."I'm happy he said it," Guillen told The Detroit Free Press on Tuesday. "I'm glad somebody spoke up."[...]"In my first year, in rookie league, I hurt my elbow and I played DH," he told the newspaper. "In my first at-bat, I hit a double, and I missed first base. I was out, and they screamed at me.""I didn't know what to say. If I had said anything, they would have sent me home. I was afraid to talk."That happens to every Latin player. They are afraid to talk."</div>I'm not agreeing with what Sheffield said, but I think he has the right to say it. I think there is some merit to Latin players being afraid, but I also think there are other reasons for why there aren't as many blacks. Still, no reason to suspend him. He didn't even say anything offensive.
Sounds like the writer is just trying to write a left-field column to get himself on he map. I don't have to point out the blunders, because they already have been in this thread.Funny story - Combs owned a website way back when. About a few weeks after the Heat traded for Shaquille O'Neal, I wrote a phony article as a joke about Michael Jordan being close to reaching a free agent agreement with the Heat. It somehow took tons of pub. The site got more hits over the next few weeks than ever. A radio station in Florida dedicated a whole segment to MJ as a Heat. Sportscenter even mentioned the rumor. It was nuts.I didn't mean to generate this kind of publicity, but it's an example of the things writers can produce for attention.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jun 26 2007, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Funny story - Combs owned a website way back when. About a few weeks after the Heat traded for Shaquille O'Neal, I wrote a phony article as a joke about Michael Jordan being close to reaching a free agent agreement with the Heat. It somehow took tons of pub. The site got more hits over the next few weeks than ever. A radio station in Florida dedicated a whole segment to MJ as a Heat. Sportscenter even mentioned the rumor. It was nuts.I didn't mean to generate this kind of publicity, but it's an example of the things writers can produce for attention.</div>That's hilarious. It's also pretty much why I don't put too much faith in "legit" rumors. All it means is that rumors started on the internet have cycled through ESPN (it's not like they actually have legit sources half the time) back to the internet. Unless they actually say who told them such a rumor, it's probably not worth listening to.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jun 26 2007, 06:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sounds like the writer is just trying to write a left-field column to get himself on he map. I don't have to point out the blunders, because they already have been in this thread.Funny story - Combs owned a website way back when. About a few weeks after the Heat traded for Shaquille O'Neal, I wrote a phony article as a joke about Michael Jordan being close to reaching a free agent agreement with the Heat. It somehow took tons of pub. The site got more hits over the next few weeks than ever. A radio station in Florida dedicated a whole segment to MJ as a Heat. Sportscenter even mentioned the rumor. It was nuts.I didn't mean to generate this kind of publicity, but it's an example of the things writers can produce for attention.</div>U started that rumor? lol I remember this being all over the radio in Miami, the sportscasters on the news were going crazy over it thinking it was true, that was hilarious.
haha I forgot about that. Yeah that was hilarious. All on the radio over there...all over every miami message board...it was great stuff.
I'm not a big fan of Sheff, even though he's on my team.I never liked him before he came here, and never wanted him to sign. I love what he brings to the team, but I don't like him otherwise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 1 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gary Sheffield has this attitude that everyones against him, always has. Ugh.</div>Most successful atheltes do..it's what makes them go.What he said had nothing about anybody being against him though so not sure where that comes from.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Jul 1 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Most successful atheltes do..it's what makes them go.What he said had nothing about anybody being against him though so not sure where that comes from.</div>There's a difference in using it for motivation when playing and just being a prick outside the game. Gilbert Arenas uses it to improve and to motivate himself, but he's an awesome guy. Gary Sheffield has an odd personality that makes getting along with him difficult, he doesn't go out of his way unless there's something in it for him. Sure a lot of athletes are like that, but Sheffield is one of the more extreme cases. I'm not talking about whatever article someone posted, I'm talking about what I've read over the years and what my dad and his friends/sports people have said about him. Gary Sheffield played in Milwaukee (has bitched about it his entire career although nobody else had any problems but him)...bottom line, he's just not a very great guy, he puts himself ahead of everyone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 1 2007, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gilbert Arenas uses it to improve and to motivate himself, but he's an awesome guy.</div>Like the time he gave the finger to the crowd?
HA Sheffield hasn't been in Milwaukee for more then 15 years. Brewer fans are still bitter about that? He didn't management there. so? Not to mention he was a 23 year old kid...I don't think he's difficult to get along with at all from what I hear. His teammates right now love him from everything they say and do. I know he got along with most in NY as well. Sure the guy isn't perfect. But one of the most extreme cases? Not even close. I like Arenas a lot as well, but I think it's hypocritical to say he's an awesome guy and to look past what he has said and done..and not do the same for Sheff.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Jul 1 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>HA Sheffield hasn't been in Milwaukee for more then 15 years. Brewer fans are still bitter about that? He didn't management there. so? Not to mention he was a 23 year old kid...</div> A majority of Brewers fans are over it, but a few older fans still don't like Sheffield for what he did, which is understandable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 1 2007, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A majority of Brewers fans are over it, but a few older fans still don't like Sheffield for what he did, which is understandable.</div>This one guy on ESPN said, "Brewers fans are like viewers of "Crossing Jordan." You know that there's millions of them, but you've never met one."
