OT George Karl vs. Melo and Kenyon Martin

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    So apparently George Karl has a book coming out where he suggests that Melo and Kenyon Martin had problems with him because they didn't have fathers growing up.

    What a dick. Kenyon Martin has some choice words:




    Wasn't it Ty Lawson who made the snake in the grass tweet about Karl?
     
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    Yeah that's something you don't say. What an ass.
     
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    It does make you wonder what Karl has told Stotts about Cousins and if that has any influence in the Blazers pursuit of him?
     
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    missable,,cowardly person?

    I wonder if he meant miserable.
     
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    hopefully he said "dude has the impulse control of a meth addict and the maturity of a 14 year old spoiled brat"
     
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    Seems to me all Karl did was state the obvious.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/deadspin...-have-1790401658/amp?client=ms-android-google

    George Karl: I Struggled Because My Players Didn't Have Good Dads

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    Longtime NBA head coach George Karl has written a book, titled Furious George, and in it he partakes in the time-honored and always-wack tradition of coaches talking shit about players they used to coach. (Or so we are told by the New York Post, which got its hands on a copy of the book.)

    The Post has plenty of eyebrow-raising quotes to enjoy, mostly about Carmelo Anthony, but the ones that stick out most involve Karl’s seeming obsession with his players lacking strong father figures:

    Karl wrote Anthony and Martin not having fathers in their lives became a detriment to their personalities.

    “Kenyon and Carmelo carried two big burdens: all that money and no father to show them how to act like a man,” Karl wrote.

    [...]

    Regarding Smith, Karl wrote that Smith’s father, Earl Sr., “urged his son to shoot the ball and keep shooting it from the very moment I put him in the game.’’

    Aside from the, uh, problematic nature of an old white coach grousing about someone needing to put a stern, fatherly hand on the shoulders of his young, black players, Karl is doing nothing but telling on himself here. Carmelo Anthony and J.R. Smith were super talented players who sometimes had trouble committing to defense and taking smart shots? Hmmmm, if only an accomplished basketball thinker who’d seen it all had been making a lot of money to figure out how to reach them and help them fulfill their potential.

    If this was just about those two that might be one thing, but note that George Karl has never not clashed with the star players on his teams. Kendall Gill hates him, Ray Allen hates him, Andre Iguodala hates him, Carmelo Anthony hates him, J.R. Smith hates him, and DeMarcus Cousins definitely hates him. Crazy theory here: maybe George Karl’s inability to get along with his stars had nothing to do with those players’ fathers, and everything to do with George Karl.
     
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    If only Barack Obama's father hadn't left him and his mother, he might've amounted to something.
     
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    Karl's statements may be true, but no need to publicly bash those guys in order to bring attention to yourself & help sell your book. I've lost respect for Karl.
     
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    That's Chris Haynes for ya!
     
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    Some people blame their own parents for their failings--Karl blames other people's parents for his failings. That's next level!
     
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    I blame my parents for other people's failings.
     
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    So, I assume this means George Karl is done coaching. I can't imagine he would expect anyone to ever hire him again after throwing his former players under the bus.

    BNM
     
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    Phil Jackson dissed Kobe in a book, then returned to coach him.

    Larry Brown tried to kick Carmelo off the Olympics team.
     
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    He was spoiled in Seattle with dads like Gary Payton's.

    I'm not really sure the point he's trying to make though. I'm sure it helps having a solid father figure around. But I'm sure there's many hall of fame type players in the NBA that didn't have relationships with their dad. To me it seems like he's just trying to get a dig in while he has the pen in his hand.
     
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    The Bulls traded a young Tyson Chandler for JR Smith and a way over the hill PJ Brown.

    Wouldn't even give the 20 year old a cup of coffee. They thought he was a head case.

    In NY and later with Cleveland, Smith seems to be just fine. He's had a lengthy career.
     

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