Hmm this one is hard.Green will be hard to choose who knows if he is abust or he stays behin Pierce his whole career. While Marvin Williams has almost nobody in sight. So im gunna have to say Marvin. HE has to compete between Josh Smith for the 3 spot. Josh Smith will never be close to Pierce so Marvin will will likely split minutes with Smith
Im sorry, Im taking Marvin.He is very athletic for his size, he can shoot the ball, post up, rebound, he is athletic with lanky arms. He will be averaging 25 and 9 in his prime as a SF.
I have honestly not seen Gerald Green play enough meaningful minutes at this point. He's still a little rough around the edges at his age. Marvin Williams is a nice talent but he has to play SF to show off his true ability. Comparisons: Gerald Green - More freakish version of Stephen Jackson (Both came out of HS). Marvin Williams - More athletic Antawn Jamison (Both passive 6'8" combo forwards).
I'm going with Gerald Green because seeing him in the Summer League is enough to make anyone want to start him over any other SF. I'd put him in the SG spot if I was Boston's head coach. Marvin Williams is a great player, but Gerald Green can give you highlights and secure victory at the same time. Maybe he didn't get enough minutes to show that his minutes ought to increase, but I expect more out of the man next season. Gerald Green is more athletic. Marvin is great and all, but any team would love to start Gerald Green. It's just that Paul Pierce is in Gerald's way.
I like Marvin Williams. He's better all around. He's taller and (hopefully for Atlanta) he can post up. Gerald Green is still amazing and could end up an Allstar, but for now, I'll take Marvin.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 19 2006, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm going with Gerald Green because seeing him in the Summer League is enough to make anyone want to start him over any other SF. I'd put him in the SG spot if I was Boston's head coach. Marvin Williams is a great player, but Gerald Green can give you highlights and secure victory at the same time. Maybe he didn't get enough minutes to show that his minutes ought to increase, but I expect more out of the man next season. Gerald Green is more athletic. Marvin is great and all, but any team would love to start Gerald Green. It's just that Paul Pierce is in Gerald's way.</div> Wow. It's one thing to like Gerald Green, but it's another to say "any coach would like to start him now" and that you would start him over Wally right now? And you seeing him tear it up in SUMMER LEAGUE means nothing. Summer League and NBA are so different it's not even funny. And trust me, almost everyone here knows that I am one of Gerald Green's biggest fans, but the things you said were just way off. He has all the potential in the world, but he is not ready yet, not ready to start yet anyway, especially over Wally Szczerbiak. As of right now, Marvin Williams is the better player. He's stronger and he's more NBA-ready than Gerald Green. He's still very raw and he has to work on his outside game, but he's still the better overall player than Gerald right now. For the future - jesus christ it's so hard to choose. Both of them have star potential. I really am having a tough time with this. I have to pick between one of my favorite young player and another player who has just as much potential as him, maybe more. I think Gerald Green is always going to be the better scorer than Marvin, but I think Marvin's ability to turn into a combo-forward helps him a lot here. I think Marvin will always be the better rebounder and defender. So offensively, Gerald Green gets my vote. Overall, Marvin beats him out.
^^^Everyone's entitled their own opinions, but yeah, I agree with you. You made it clear that Marvin Williams is better than Gerald Green. End of story. I must applaud you, my good man. I applaud you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 22 2006, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^^^Everyone's entitled their own opinions, but yeah, I agree with you. You made it clear that Marvin Williams is better than Gerald Green. End of story. I must applaud you, my good man. I applaud you.</div> Was that a sarcastic snap at me? I know everyone has the right to make their own opinions, but what you said was really off, sorry. No big deal, just saying.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AliG @ Sep 24 2006, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marvin Williams because from now on he will start because they got rid of Harrington so he will get more experience before Gerald Green does. Marvin will have nobody to compete with for the starting job.</div> Shelden Williams could definitely take the starting PF job, and I think he should. Some people see Marvin being successful at PF, I think otherwise. Let him develope into his own mold in his natural position, SF. He can't handle most of the bigs in the NBA. I say start Shelden at the 4 for defense and rebounding, and bring Marvin off the bench as a 6th man.
I'll take Gerald Green. He's a great athlete,has great players around him that could help him improve on his game, and I just think that he has a much better knowledge of the game than Marvin Williams and I think he'll just be a much better player than Marvin.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 24 2006, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll take Gerald Green. He's a great athlete,has great players around him that could help him improve on his game, and I just think that he has a much better knowledge of the game than Marvin Williams and I think he'll just be a much better player than Marvin.</div> If you swtiched Marvin Williams and Gerald Greens names that post would make a hell of a lot more sense.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 24 2006, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll take Marvin Williams. He's a great athlete,has great players around him that could help him improve on his game, and I just think that he has a much better knowledge of the game than Gerald Green and I think he'll just be a much better player than Gerald.</div>
When Green gets some minutes, and everyone sees him play - then we can make this comparison.But for the FUTURE! I will take Marvin Williams.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 24 2006, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you swtiched Marvin Williams and Gerald Greens names that post would make a hell of a lot more sense.</div>What veterans with alot of knowledge does Marvin Williams have to learn from? That's what I thought, Paul Pierce and Wally will be mentors to Gerald Green and he will learn alot from their games.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Sep 24 2006, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What veterans with alot of knowledge does Marvin Williams have to learn from? That's what I thought, Paul Pierce and Wally will be mentors to Gerald Green and he will learn alot from their games.</div>what does gerald have to learn from wally? what wally knows is either learned by sheer experience. And he won't be able to teach Gerald how to be a team player. Honest to god, I don't think that Gerald needs much tutoring from players, just from coaches (I.e. how to fit into a system, play defense, etc.).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Sep 24 2006, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>what does gerald have to learn from wally? what wally knows is either learned by sheer experience. And he won't be able to teach Gerald how to be a team player. Honest to god, I don't think that Gerald needs much tutoring from players, just from coaches (I.e. how to fit into a system, play defense, etc.).</div> I disagree. I think Gerald can (and is) learn a lot from Paul Pierce. Gerald is going to be an offensive wizard, what better mentor than Paul Pierce? Paul can teach him how to draw contact on a jump shot (Paul masters it), he can help him with maybe developing a post game, help him with getting to the basket, using up-fakes, etc. Paul Pierce masters all that, Gerald is basically just a 1-on-1 scorer right now. Once he learns all those things (Doc can teach it, but not as well as Pierce) Gerald will be even more of a dynamite offensive player. About Wally, true, Wally isn't necessarily going to help Gerald turn into a 50% shooter. But Wally is a good guy to have around.
good point with creating contact and such. but I don't think gerald will be that type of player. I think he'll be more finesse.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Sep 24 2006, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>good point with creating contact and such. but I don't think gerald will be that type of player. I think he'll be more finesse.</div> But with Gerald's god-given offensive talent, mixed with his athleticism, if he gradually picks things up like that from Pierce then he could be basically unstoppable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Sep 24 2006, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Was that a sarcastic snap at me?I know everyone has the right to make their own opinions, but what you said was really off, sorry. No big deal, just saying.</div>No, that wasn't a rude, sarcastic remark. I was only informing you that you're debate about what Gerald is lacking compared to Marvin Williams opened my eyes to a new side. I was only giving you your holy :worthy: praise.Anyway, it wasn't supposed to be sarcastic, but yeah, seemed like it was. I was admitting that you're right, I'm wrong. End of discussion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 26 2006, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, that wasn't a rude, sarcastic remark. I was only informing you that you're debate about what Gerald is lacking compared to Marvin Williams opened my eyes to a new side. I was only giving you your holy :worthy: praise. Anyway, it wasn't supposed to be sarcastic, but yeah, seemed like it was. I was admitting that you're right, I'm wrong. End of discussion.</div> My bad man, the way it was written made it kind of look sarcastic. But it's all good, sorry for the confusion.
