They do deserve it. And I don't give a fuck about you. I'm not trying to get a rise out of you. If your a terrorist, you deserve to be tortured. That simple. Stop being so arrogant and acting like my posts revolve around you. Obviously you care what I say and want to see what I say if you have to sit here and respond to everything I say and act like it is directed towards you. Good job ignoring it. You made a post in direct reference to it. EPIC FAIL.
How do you know the detainee was a terrorist? Doesn't the article say that terror charges against him were dropped? -Pop
He shouldn't be hanging out with terrorist. If he was being held, there was reason to hold him. Suspicion, at least. If he didn't answer their questions and was tortured, it was for a reason. Oh well. Sucks for him. My genitals are fine, his aren't.
I'm guessing "genital maiming" is not an acceptable interrogation method for prisoners of war. I'm not saying you let the dude run free, but there are rules governing what you can and can't do. -Pop
Is it disgusting? Yeah, but come on, we all know what was going, we all had a sense of it. Torture is torture and there are endless amounts of things that can be done. The fact that this is being leaked out is disgusting. This shit should be kept in doors. Never air out dirty laundry like this, people will start having sympathy for these heartless bastards.
After Bush shit all over the Constitution and committed war crimes...yeah, I guess thats okay /sarcasm
If these accusations are true, then I'm disappointed. I have repeatedly said waterboarding is not torture. However, causing physical harm is. Like I said, if what they described is true that's torture. I'll withhold judgment until a more mainstream source reports on this story.
If a guy was about to cut my dick off, I'd tell the truth. If they did end up cutting it off, I'd beg for death, assuming I couldn't get free to kill the mother fucker that used the blade.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/documents/dodmemos.pdf This declassified memo from Rumsfeld to field commanders details 3 categories of interrogation techniques that can be used at Gitmo: Category I: Yelling at the detainee, multiple interrogators, and deception (lying, presenting falsified documents to detainne). Category II: Forced to stand for hours, isolation for up to 30 days, questioning detainees outside the standard questioning area, light deprivation, 20 hour interrogations (detainees allowed 4 hours sleep minimum), forced grooming (forced to shave), denial of comfort items including clothing and books, use of fear dogs Category III: Convince detainee death or severe pain is imminent, though no death threats allowed, pushing or poking the detainee with a finger, and waterboarding, exposure to cold weather (in cuba?).
I never thought I'd find myself ever agreeing with Black Mamba, but I do see his point of view to a certain extent. If I have a known terrorist on my hands who's sole purpose in life is to kill americans as well as other innocent people, to include women and children- and do it just for fun from a deeply demented mind, then I'm going to extract every ounce of information from him I can. To be sure, I'd start with whatever is considering internationally legal first and foremost, but at some point in time if I have good reason to believe he is withholding something important, it's gonna get a little rough and I'm going to get what I need. Period. At some point in time, fighting demented people like this has to go beyond liberal appeasement and conservative 'nation invading'. Both of those have proven to be idiocy. It has to become more personal and the only language people with twisted minds understand is blunt force. At some point in time the fight has to be taken to their house.
First of all, he probably was a terrorist, who knows. But, secondly, suppose your cousin was a terrorist. And you didn't know it, and you hung out with your cousin. So, by your logic you deserve to get your genitals sliced open. Yeah, that makes great sense. Not only does torture fail to get correct information many times, but it's also a reflection of the society and the morals and ethics of people within a society. If it's all about "they started it and they're willing to do X, Y, and Z" then let's just nuke the f out of them and get it over with. Then we can all walk around with our d**** hanging out proclaiming how we're the biggest.
