Given the roster he had to work with this year, did Girardi do a good job?

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Given the roster he had to work with this year, did Girardi do a good job?

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  1. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    No comments necessary...a simple yes or no will do.
     
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    UNCLE u got me 59 please stop!!! i beg of you!! i'm about to jump.... please remove this thread b4 another response! i'm not worthy i'm not worthy!!!
     
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    I voted NO - Girardi stood by and watched his lineups continue to flounder BIG TIME without SHAKING IT UP (moving Tex away from the middle of the order)....not having Ellsbury bat leadoff for TOO LONG.....not implementing any plays with runners on base---> "hit and run".....he hardly ever starts the runners.....He is a prisoner to his players.....doesn't have, or didn't display any leadership with his players -- offensively....afraid to kick butts and send a message or two or three to these underachieving, overpaid pride-less chumps. I don't care if it didn't work...it is HIS JOB to to try, and MANAGE, let the team see his displeasure instead of patting guys on the ass all the time.
     
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    Pastafazul Banned User BANNED

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    these guys know this blg, ain't nobody dat toopit! this board is just a cat fight!
     
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    There was a large stretch where Ellsbury was the only guy in the lineup hitting. What's being accomplished batting him leadoff?
     
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    Jeter bats 2nd- Ellsbury gets on base with less than two out? Jeter is very capable of hitting ground balls ..and has hit ALOT of them this year.

    How about starting Ellsbury with Jeter at bat? Possibly hit-and-run resulting in 1st and 3rd with one or less outs....possibly allowing Ellsbury to steal 2nd base while Jeter is up...then you have TWO chances for a run with a base hit.
    And Girardi should've dropped Tex from the middle of order...Tex absolutely killed this team. And I really don't care too much who Girardi put in his place.

    When I say shake up the lineup- if only to send a message-
    I mean shake up the lineup.
     
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    You can't shift shit around and hope it doesn't stink.
     
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    Sounds good, I hear ya. But---

    This team had/has plenty of well established professionals who are NOT making their retirement tour...know what I mean?

    What some of us are talking about is this---> Sure, you can't shuffle sh!t around and hope it still doesn't stink, but you sure can COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

    This came out after Jeter's final homegame.

    Here's a piece of it:

    It was a speech the likes of which I've never heard him give before," said the source, who was in the room during the meeting. "It's something he probably should have said back in spring training."

    Girardi confirmed the incident took place -- he preferred to describe it as "a team meeting" -- but refused to supply any details of what he said to the team or if any particular players were singled out for his wrath.

    "I'm not going to go into what I talked about," Girardi said. "Write whatever you want.



    http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/sto...r-yankee-stadium-finale?ex_cid=espnapi_public


    He should've said it at the start of August - AND continue to shake up the lineup by rewarding those who were hitting ..and penalize those those who were stinking up the place.
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Believe me, no secret the big fat cats on this roster could not
    HIT their weight.....Girardi should have benched these guys
    earlier in the season.........in stead of us bitching game after
    game how pathetic they were.....especially at the plate.
    They know who they are. Total busts all season long.
    Guess who?
     
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    Thank you - I, and others agree 100%
     
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    on the contrary counselor, this is exactly my point about a rah rah BS personality! u coddle your players all year then at years end u decide to scold... sorry, thats why shite like banning ice cream in clubhouse got out to public... he is immature. PERIOD! you think the players are gonna take that to the off season and say OHHHHHHH i must work hard in the off season and come back ready cause i got joe mad? thats laughable...
     
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    a coach should never be concerned about who the player is or how much money they make, the coach wants all his players contracts done b4 the season starts so there is NEVER a discussion about it!!!!! a coach's responsiblity is to win every game! and that is why this season was a failure, it wasn't the injuries, every team has them, it was joes loyalty to jeter tex CC and every other big name on this team, cause he was afraid to hurt their feelings... great coaches don't give a shite about that... maybe if joe cared more about the job he wouldn't be makin that speech, now it will be percieved as him tryin to save his job!
     
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    Tex and Beltran simply didn't hit. McCann didn't hit for a good chunk of the season. That's the meat of the lineup they expected and needed production from. Especially after losing Cano to free agency. Why that's so hard to understand is beyond me.
     
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    ...lmao.

    ...even when confronted with multiple opinions of others and asked multiple times if a "board poll" would suffice without response, and then presented with a fair and impartial poll, it's FINALLY replied to but is arbitrarily cast aside as if it doesn't matter.



    ...gotta love the hypocrisy.
     
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    ...yup, the 3-4-5 spots were a black hole for most of the season.

    ...and that of course, was Girardi's fault...gotta laugh at the suggestions that these guys should have been bench in lieu of others, but those "others" were not named.
     
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    Those 3-4-5 spots were occupied much too long by players those same guys who were largely responsible for it being a black hole-
    Tex, McCann , Beltran...especially Tex

    If Girardi would've only dropped Tex to 6th or 7th while he was obviously deteriorating and put just about ANY OTHER guy in his spot it would've been an improvement. His 2nd half numbers were begging Girardi to do it-
    BA .182 OBP.276 SLG%.307 OPS.583<----good God!

    I know what some might say - nobody else was doing much better..
    ..oh really?

    I'm telling you I would've often played mix and match with the middle of the lineup as it became clear it WAS a black hole.
    Maybe Ichiro on occasion...maybe Cervelli on occasion- he WAS one of their better hitters and HAS BEEN one of the team's BEST hitterS w/runners on base/scoring position. How about Headly ? Prado began to hit with the team pretty soon after he was acquired. I wouldn't of hesitated to put him in the 3 or 4 spot while he was healthy and hitting.

    Girardi showed no initiative or ability to think on the fly as he watched this team being sunk by 2 or 3 guys in the middle of the order - I'll give Beltran sort of a pass because I believe he was hurt. But I would've also dropped him in the order.
     
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    ...and replaced them with exactly who?

    ...and you're right, "nobody else was doing much better". Like I already said. "...gotta laugh at the suggestions that these guys should have been bench in lieu of others, but those "others" were not named."


    ...loling at the hate with no alternate plan...classic. The voters have spoken.
     
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    Yup that's it. Just put anybody in that spot. Put career bottom of the order guys in the cleanup spot and they will be stars. This is becoming laughable.
     
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    ...yup, Headley was the only one who could have been any better than Tex, then you have the defensive side of the equation to weigh. And then you have to have a replacement for Headley at 3B.

    ...the Yanx simply did not have good enough players in the right spots this year...again, not Girardi's doing.
     
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