Glenn Robinson Traded For Jamal Mashburn and Rodney Rogers

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  1. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Philadelphia 76ers completed their second trade in two days, sending forward Glenn Robinson to the New Orleans Hornets for Jamal Mashburn and Rodney Rogers on Thursday.

    Both Robinson and Mashburn have yet to play for their respective teams this year. Mashburn has a knee injury and may never play again.

    Robinson, earning more than $12 million in the final year of his contract, is on the injured list with left ankle tendinitis though he's been unhappy since losing his starting forward spot in training camp.

    Rogers can become a free agent at the end of the year. His 3-point shooting fits nicely with coach Jim O'Brien's offensive philosophy, but Rogers is only averaging 9.3 points and shooting just 27.5 percent from 3-point range.
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    This trade makes no sense for Philly.
    Mash is out for the year and is likely to retire, and Rogers is a decent role player.
    That's not worth trading away GRob's expiring contract.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">This trade makes no sense for Philly.
    Mash is out for the year and is likely to retire, and Rogers is a decent role player.
    That's not worth trading away GRob's expiring contract.</div>

    Why bother keeping It? no one else wanted It. The Sixers needed another big body off the bench after trading away 3 big guys to the Kings. Rogers is a good player to have off the bench. He may not be as good as he was in Boston or Phoenix but he can give you some good minutes.
     
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    I think coach had a lot of influence in this trade. We all know he hates Robinsons work ethic, and him as a person. To see Robinson go is nothing new to me, as soon as this was proposed a couple of days ago, I knew it was bound to happen. Why would you want to keep around a player that will never see the light of day and at the same time eat away at your money? There were no other trades bearing his name, so why not?

    Rodgers will contribute some as he has in NO, and lets hope for Mashburn to recover fully, haha!
     
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    If this deal is indeed completed as the source indicates then Philly fans should be feeling...uncomfortable.

    Mashburn who is never healthy and streaky in his rehabs, always has been. Rodney "fat legs" Rogers who can only hit 3's and is streaky even then, with no substantial defense to speak of or mobility. Rodney also barely has the intensity to take a charge, or to risk getting drilled down low. Rodney also misses his lay-ups, we saw that when he was in NJ.
     
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    Billy King is all buisness this trade deadline!
    Babcock on the other hand ....
     
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    KA this move is mostly not even a basketball move. Just a main swap to get rid of one contract and get back another. Mashburn likely won't ever play again. If Mash decides to retire at the end of the season which he might then that contract would basically be off the cap, or at the very least after the 05/06 season.

    If I was a Philly fan I would be really happy. The moves they have made shows they are committed about winning and becoming a force.
     
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    Yeah, I understand AllNet. I see how the cap works and all. I realize that Glen has no value. You're right about that.
    But I disagree in some sense, as this could very well be in a way a basketball move. Rodney isn't spectacular, but he's ok and he tries hard on ocassion. Phily can see that they're in a weak Altantic Division, and that they can blaze through 2 rounds in the playoffs. When that idea of two rounds past comes to mind, there is always a chance to make a run for the show. Never know when injuries occur and you find yourselves on top, Philly sees that they have about 3 years to go deep in the playoffs or even win it all, and they're going to take it now. This trade makes some sense not only in terms of contracts, but in a way it can work basketball-wise.

    EDIT: AllNet, if/when Mash retires, doesn't Philly have to kind of prove to league officials that it was mostly due to injury in order to gain some cap room?
     
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    man.. just think, if the Sixers could somehow get Mashburn to 100% before the playoffs lol... can u imagine??

    PG-Iverson
    SG-Iggy/Korver
    SF-Mashburn/Green/Barnes
    PF-Webber/Rodgers
    C-Dalembert/Jackson

    championship contenders? i think so....

    sorry, but i had to put this out there, even thought i REALLY doubt its possible for them to get Mash ready. But I think he faked the injury, because he hated New Orleans management, but thats just me.
     
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    If Mashburn by some chance does return next season and put uup anywhere near as good numbers as he has done for his career then this becomes a great trade for the Sixers. So to me It looks like a win/win situation.
     
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    If the sixers would trade Glenn's expiring contract for Mashborns ridiculous contract.....why wouldnt the raptors try and do a Jalen Rose, Donyell Marshall trade!?!?
     
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    civic02- we would of had to trade Dalembert as well, and everyone here cherishes Dalembert's oozing defensive and offensive potential.
     
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    I think this is a pretty good trade to get rid of glenn robinson. Cause let's face it, we were lucky to be able to just get rid of glenn robinson.

    On the basketball side, we get one more semi-decent body to use off of the bench, and we needed a forward after losing williamson and thomas. Though rodgers is past his prime, I think he can still contribute for us. Mashburn is out for the season with a knee injury so he is a non-factor.

    On the buisness side, rodgers is a free agent after this season and mashburn may retire so it will help out with our cap space. If mashburn does not retire, I think the sixers would probablly look to trade him somewhere else.
     
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    Yeah this was mostly a trade to unload some contracts. But G-Rob is finally gone...does anybody know how much 100% Mashburn is?
     
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    Mash is rumored not to play again in the NBA so basically this trade is for Rodney Rogers.(We have to pay Jamal 20% of his salary this season and next season,then he's gone)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">civic02- we would of had to trade Dalembert as well, and everyone here cherishes Dalembert's oozing defensive and offensive potential.</div>


    I personally would of done a G-rob and a 1st for Marshall and Rose...i think thats a fair trade. Philli's lineup this year would of been great. Or even if its Marshall, Eric Williams, Rose for G-rob a pick and some decent filler.

    The Raptors would free up some massive contract space and get a pick as well, while the Sixers would have

    C-Dalembert
    F-Webber
    F-Iggy
    G-Rose
    G-AI

    F-Marshall
    G-Korver
    F-Eric Williams
    G-Green
    C-Jackson
    F-Barnes

    That team could win the East!
     
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    If somehow Mashburn can be good to go for the playoffs, this team may be on the road to the finals. Remember, Mashburn was an all-star before the injury and we could be going into the playoffs with a lineup of A.I, Iggy, Mash, CWebb, and Dalembert (if Mash is healthy). Seems like I have been playing a fantasy league game with the Sixers.

    On the flip side if Mashburn and Webber both get hurt and are not healthy for the playoffs, then we have a problem. I like that Billy King is taking gambles though in the not so good Atlantic Division.
     
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    I don't mind this trade for the 76ers at all. They get an able body in Rogers and Mashburns contract is mostly covered by insurance anyways so they aren't paying a whole lot for him.

    IF he does actually come back and plays at a high level this trade is an absolute steal for Philly. It's been stated before in this thread of the lineup possibilities. I don't think he will be able to play ever again but Grant Hill did it. Why not Mash?

    If he retires: His contract comes off the books which is just like having GRob coming off of the cap but in this case they don't pay as much for him because insurance is covering 80% of Mash's salary. Another smart move by King. Sure he counts towards the cap still but he doesn't have to pay 80% of his salary. They would have had this with GRob but who would you want more? Mash or Robinson sitting on your injured list?

    And Philly gets a big man who can shoot the 3 in Rodney Rogers. They were looking at acquiring Donyell for the same purposes so they just settled on a poor mans Donyell Marshall in Rogers. They lost a lot of depth trading away three inside players but they eased the pain by making this trade.

    I think Billy King is on to something here.....
     
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    Look here, the Sixers technically don't lose any depth, we lost 2 players that contribute regularly(corliss,kenny thomas), and we're going to get 2 back,(webber and rodgers). And billy king already stated that Jamal Mashburn willl not play for the Sixers, so......give up your hops guys lol.
     
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    props to b-king for getting rid of g-rob. rogers isn't a scorer but could provide at least a 'big man' presence on the floor not to mention having a so-so threat from beyond the arc.
    u could tell b-king's building a championship team round AI.
     

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