Going into the summer I hope this is the one graphic the team remembers

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  1. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    I mean, Elleby wasn't as bad as I thought he'd be.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Interesting to see Ant on the same line as Dame. Wonder what a minutes-adjusted version would look like.
     
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    How can Dame win the Good Teammate Award when he's clearly isolating himself from them?
     
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    CJ worse than Melo.....that is pretty brutal. Would be interesting to hear from CJ defenders (curious since CJ isn't a defender himself) explain or justify this in terms of what is good for the team now and in the long run especially given his contract.

    I don't see anything that will change my annual (going on year 6) desire to see CJ on another team. The best way I can see that he can help the Blazers is in what they can get back for him. Hopefully, he can go to another franchise where he will be the lead guard where I believe he will do quite well.

    That just doesn't fit here.
     
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    Really? For me it's this one:

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    He is only on the same defensive line; a long way off on the offensive line.
     
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    I want to see those bottom three guys gone.
     
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    Only one really above average defender and two offensive guys, but Simons doesn't get many minutes. It seems just reversing minutes for Simons and CJ would have improved the team.
     
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    Surprising to see Kanter so poor on offense, in addition to defense.
     
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    I slam CJ a lot, but even with this opportunity to pile on, it's quite a small sample size. It's obvious CJ isn't as bad as that 6 game series or as good as the 12 game stretch at the beginning of the season. CJ's career norms define his value, not good or bad small sample sizes

    thankfully, the 'Playoff-CJ' fairy tale should be buried for good though
     
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    He was unplayable in this series, so it's a tiny sample size.
     
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    Worth noting that those are not per minute stats, so the reason CJ is SO bad and Dame is SO good is because they were both played huge minutes. Per minute Carmelo was probably worse defensively than CJ, and Elleby might be as well.
     
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    I think there's probably some rotational noise with some of those stats. But they sure do seem to confirm what it is we just watched
     
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    Not just the stats, but eyes don't lie. Dame is one special player.
     
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    Wait ANT and TJ were our 2nd and third best players?
     
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    But it wasn’t the roster

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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    In Simons' defense on the on/off stats: He was almost always paired with Carmelo Anthony, and given one job -- Give the ball to Carmelo Anthony.

    As for the rest, no wonder Olshey wants to keep him.
     
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    Good idea. He develops his long range and mid range shot skills and plays decent D while Dame gets more rest.
     
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    I disagree. People get 4 or 5 year contracts or lose trade value overnight because of the small sample playoff games. These are weighted far more.
     
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