Warriors (12-14) AT Celtics (10-13) TD Banknorth Garden Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:30 p.m. Projected Starting Lineups (according to http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/preview_122006.html) Golden State Baron Davis 20.6 ppg 4.50 rebounds 8.5 assists 2.05 steals 2.73 TO Monta Ellis* 18.2 ppg 2.70 rebounds 4.4 assists 1.27 steals 3.65 TO Jason Richardson 13.8 ppg 4.10 rebounds 2.9 assists .59 steals 1.29 TO Mickael Pietrus 13.8 ppg 5.30 rebounds .9 assists .61 steals 1.17 blocks 1.70 TO Andris Biedrins 11.0 ppg 9.40 rebounds 1.3 assists .65 steals 2.27 blocks 1.81 TO Boston Sebastian Telfair 8.9 ppg 1.70 rebounds 4.2 assists .82 steals 1.27 TO Tony Allen 7.7 ppg 2.60 rebounds 1.0 assists .81 steals 1.38 TO Paul Pierce* 26.2 ppg 7.20 rebounds 4.3 assists .91 steals 3.86 TO Brian Scalbrine 2.8 ppg 1.80 rebounds .9 assists .26 steals .21 blocks .42 TO Al Jefferson 11.7 ppg. 8.70 rebounds .8 assists .40 steals 1.33 blocks 1.73 TO Injury Report Warriors: Monta Ellis* (sprained left foot) is a game-time decision. Troy Murphy (sore left foot) and Zarko Cabarkapa (strained lower back) are on the inactive list. Celtics: Ryan Gomes (strained right calf), Michael Olowokandi (abdominal strain), Paul Pierce* (right elbow bursitis) and Wally Szczerbiak (right ankle sprain) are day-to-day. Theo Ratliff (sore lower back) and Kendrick Perkins (plantar fascitis) are out TV: FSN Bay Area RADIO: KNBR 1050 AM I'll let you guys make the predictions Enjoy!
Well i just put a c note on the dub's and the 2 points.... I just cant believe this losing streak will continue w/wo ellis....
Ike vs. Powe, battle of the undersized pac 10 big men. Ike looks like he towers over Powe from the single possession that they've played before the commercial break but it could be because he's sporting the half-fro.
Nice job to end the half strongly by going on a 25-9 run. Baron and Ike were key this half, Baron has 14 points, 6 assists, 2 steals on 5/6 shooting. Ike did great scoring in the post with 9 points and 2 rebounds on 4/4 shooting. From the limited time hes gotten this season it looked like Ike's rebounding has improved and it seems like the officials allow him to bang around more on the inside defensively without calling a foul on him, which is good because then he can beat up the other team on the inside offensively. I can't wait for the team to be healthy, with a bench of Ike, Barnes, Dunleavy, and one of Pietrus or Monta (probably Monta can stop turning the ball over) and JR getting back to his normal self we should be a very explosive team.
I like the shot selection. 15 free throws 7 three pointers. They aren't giving up so many offensive boards. Good first half. But it's not over just yet...
OK I don't understand why Ellis is starting the second half. He's been almost invisible, or worse even a negative (2 pts, 0 ast, 3 to). Why not slide JRich and Pietrus down and put Ike in? He had a really nice first half, why not ride the hot hand? Ellis is injured anyway, so you have a perfectly good excuse to cut his minutes without hurting any feelings. EDIT: corrected Ellis' stats.
This game is a good example of How Dunleavy's negatives cancel out his positives. He's getting some stats but is getting absolutely pwned on defense, and turning the ball over. Ever notice how whenever he turns the ball over he immediately starts yelling at his teammates like they missed his gameplan? Maybe that's true sometimes, but not all the time. If Dun Sr. wants his soft ass, then ship him out ASAP, I'm tired of his act.
Where the hell is Ike? Warriors have been slipping all quarter can can't get a decent shot, there's only 2:03 left in the 3rd Quarter.
Warriors were VERY lucky to win this game. JRich clearly grabbed Paul Pierce's forearm during that scrum, and he should have been shooting 2 freethrows down by 1. I wish JRich could work out his problems in practice instead of in games, he very nearly shot the Warriors out of this game. Why does Nellie hate Ike? He looked good, looked strong and efficient, and he gets 11 minutes? WTF?
I dont know if you guys heard the Tommy Heinsohn broadcast but i am pretty sure he has no clue and no scouting on the dub's. He constantly refereed "beerens" as a not so swift non defender harping on his defense and stating he was just an offensive guy. he kept talking about how high we were on pietrus and barely mentioned ellis. It was painful to listen to. What happened in the second half when ike travelled then they showed nelson yelling at him. Heinsohn said ike was yelling back at nelson... "and that is never a good thing". I agree Ike looked solid and played well. Dunleavy, yeah i notice he yells at his teammates... typically the barnes or younger guys though. Dunleavy had some dumb dumb tunrovers and worse ballhandling ones. yeah what was j-rich 4-19? you could just see his game was off also was ellis's ankle bothering him ....he sure looked worse than a rookie in those back to back series where he turned the ball over twice.. we got the win but we are going to have to play a lot better than this vs orlando.... nearly another 4th quarter meltdown .... i thought my money was lost.
JRich 4-19, 1-7 from 3pt land!!! Damn, never in a million years is he ever going to be a shooter that justifies jacking up 7 3s. When he came out of college he was a slasher/leaper. That's what he is and I wish he would admit that to himself. And a big fat 0 FTs. That's just awful. Dunleavy, yeah he had 4 TOs, but he was defending Pierce at the end and did not allow Pierce to win the game (I think, I was on radio in the car). A win on the road is a win. Yippeee!!! Let's hope Howard is double teamed and Jameer is off on Friday.
<div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Warriors were VERY lucky to win this game. JRich clearly grabbed Paul Pierce's forearm during that scrum, and he should have been shooting 2 freethrows down by 1. I wish JRich could work out his problems in practice instead of in games, he very nearly shot the Warriors out of this game. Why does Nellie hate Ike? He looked good, looked strong and efficient, and he gets 11 minutes? WTF?</div> I disagree about J-Rich having to work out his problems in practice. An NBA schedule doesn't allow THAT much practice time and honestly, the only way to get back into game shape is by playing in games. There is simply no substitute. He's about a half-a-step behind and clearly needs to work out the kinks, but as long as his knee keeps getting stronger, so will the rest of his body, and eventually he'll get his rythm back (i.e. he will make shots). Nellie doesn't hate Ike. He's also coming back from an injury and you need to be cautious of minutes and fatigue so you don't re-injure something unnecessarily.
JRich was our best 3pt shooter last year and made a ton. He was just not in rhythm as he hasn't played in awhile. We need Maggette now! Get it done Mullin!
<div class="quote_poster">philsmith75 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">JRich 4-19, 1-7 from 3pt land!!! Damn, never in a million years is he ever going to be a shooter that justifies jacking up 7 3s. When he came out of college he was a slasher/leaper. That's what he is and I wish he would admit that to himself. And a big fat 0 FTs. That's just awful. Dunleavy, yeah he had 4 TOs, but he was defending Pierce at the end and did not allow Pierce to win the game (I think, I was on radio in the car). A win on the road is a win. Yippeee!!! Let's hope Howard is double teamed and Jameer is off on Friday.</div> Wow, that's harsh for someone just getting back into a lineup because of a knee injury. As long as the knee keeps getting healthier, so will the rest of his game. It's obvious that this injury/surgery has setup him back significantly but I think when his game is on, most definely is shooting seven 3's justified. Ever since he's been in the league, he has worked on improving his overall game. There's no reason why he should revert back to what he was coming out of college...that won't prolong his career at all. Serious injuries are often good things for players who rely soley on their athletic ability. It forces them to let the game come to them and not exert so much energy. Great players are efficient with their abilities. It's up to the coach to regulate minutes vs. fatigue.
Baron has really proved to be the franchise player of this squad and he made the critical shot. If he didn't make that, we probably would have lost.
<div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree about J-Rich having to work out his problems in practice. An NBA schedule doesn't allow THAT much practice time and honestly, the only way to get back into game shape is by playing in games. There is simply no substitute. He's about a half-a-step behind and clearly needs to work out the kinks, but as long as his knee keeps getting stronger, so will the rest of his body, and eventually he'll get his rythm back (i.e. he will make shots). Nellie doesn't hate Ike. He's also coming back from an injury and you need to be cautious of minutes and fatigue so you don't re-injure something unnecessarily.</div>OK so they're both coming off injuries, but there seems to be a double standard here then. Because Ike is playing very well and is a positive factor in the game and gets 11 minutes, JRich is playing terribly and seriously jeopardizing the team's chance to win and gets 41 minutes. That just doesn't seem like a good plan to me.
<div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">OK so they're both coming off injuries, but there seems to be a double standard here then. Because Ike is playing very well and is a positive factor in the game and gets 11 minutes, JRich is playing terribly and seriously jeopardizing the team's chance to win and gets 41 minutes. That just doesn't seem like a good plan to me.</div> You missed one thing: J-Rich is our #1 or #2 scorer (or he should be) and is a starter. Ike is not. Yes, they play different positions, but when you think about it, who is more valuable to the team? J-Rich. It doesn't add value to the team or player when you sit him. Now, perhaps it didn't add value to play him that long THIS game, but if he didn't play as much as he did, it may take more games to get him back to where he should be. Unfortunately for Ike, there's a bit more competition for his role/position and he has never added as much value as J-Rich has. Maybe someday he will and at that time, he may get as many minutes as J-Rich did in the same situation.
