GT: Rockets vs Kings (1/13)

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  1. tracymcgrady_01

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    <font color="red">Rockets (32-18)</font> vs <font color="purple">Kings (22-27)</font>
    Tuesday, February 13, 2007, Toyota Center, Houston, TX
    7:30 Central; FSNSW, SportsRadio 610 AM


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    <font size="1">(R. Alston, T. McGrady, S. Battier, J. Howard, D. Mutombo)</font></font>

    <font size="1">Leading Scorer: Tracy McGrady - 23.7 PPG
    Leading Rebounder: Dikembe Mutombo - 7.0 RPG
    Assists Leader: Tracy McGrady - 6.1 APG
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    <font size="1">(M. Bibby, K. Martin, R. Artest, S. Abdur-Rahim, J. Williams)</font></font>

    <font size="1">Leading Scorer: Kevin Martin - 21.1 PPG
    Leading Rebounder: Ron Artest - 6.8 RPG
    Assists Leader: Mike Bibby - 5.3 APG
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    <font size=""1""><font color="red">Luther Head (6th Man)</font></font></div>
    <font size="1"><div align="center">28.7 MPG, 11.4 PPG, 3.6 RPG, 2.4 APG</div></font>
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    <font size=""1""><font color="purple">John Salmons (6th Man)</font></font>
    <font size="1">27.4 MPG, 8.5 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 3.0 APG</font>


    Predictions: <font color=""Red"">Rockets 91</font>, Kings 80</div>

    Keys To The Game:

    <font color=""Red"">Rockets:</font> T-Mac is coming off an OK game against the Bobcats. We need to really control the tempo of this game because it is a high scoring team. The Rockets can finish a couple of these games out of before the All-Star game with wins. This will also raise our confidence for some of our other games coming up. Mutumbo more BLOCKS!!! Dont give the lead on runs and transition D is a key. Also, don't give up the lead close the end of the 4th quarter. Contain Kevin Martin and Ron Artest's jumpshot and the Rockets should be good. Also, Luther Head is on a roll now so he needs to continue shooting the ball well. This is a chippy game and the Rockets need to win it. <font color=""Red"">Luther Head hit some 3's!!
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    <font color=""purple"">Kings:</font> Keep Tmac from scoring more than 30. They need to execute down the strech if this game is close because they are a great offensive team. Try to establish a pace in the game that does not favor the Rockets. The bench needs to produce and Kevin Martin needs to give them energy with points. Bibby is also a key player because he has been struggling in the season and he needs to hit some shots for them. The offense needs to go through Bibby and Salmons. Abdur-Rahim needs to give them some energy and Artest needs to defend T-Mac well along with scoring. Cover luther head on 3's!

    This game is a chippy game for the Rockets. After coming of a great win against the Bobcats, the Rockets have had plenty of rest and so I look for a good game from both teams but I wont be surprised if its a low scoring game. This game should be a must-win for the Rockets because it can help the Rockets achieve the 3rd seed in the playoffs. The race is close between, San Antonio and Utah. This should be a great matchup for Rafer again because Mike Bibby is good. All the Rockets need to do is pickup their defense and not play Lazy then they should be in the game. If T-Mac has a bad shooting night he has to take it to the basket or someone has to pick up the slack offensively or the Rockets will be toast. I hope that the Rockets can just finish this game strong because they are about to play the Mavs again and they need some energy and momentum going into that game. Hope for a great game at Toyota Center and may the best team win.
     
  2. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    if you attend the game look out for me and a couple of rowdies at half time....we have something special planned for Ron Artest when he's shooting around......
     
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    2nd quarter and we went on semi-dry spell (what i previously mentioned). I'd love to see Bonzi and Snyder in.

    Did you see Chuck miss that damn fast break layup? That's ridiculous![​IMG]
     
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    chuch hayes shoots free throws like charles barley's golf swing
     
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    T-mac On Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I can't believe this! Chuck Hayes has missed 4 damn layup tonight. Not to mention got the ball taken from him in the clutch. JVG's loyality to this guy is gettin borderline RIDICULOUS. WHERE IS JUWAN HOWARD? Everything I've been sayin as came to reality tonight. Whether or not we win, we need to make a change at backup PF/C.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I can't believe this! Chuck Hayes has missed 4 damn layup tonight. Not to mention got the ball taken from him in the clutch. JVG's loyality to this guy is gettin borderline RIDICULOUS. WHERE IS JUWAN HOWARD? Everything I've been sayin as came to reality tonight. Whether or not we win, we need to make a change at backup PF/C.</div>

    Wait a minute...he goes 3/10 from the field and you want him gone? Ive seen Juwan have worst nights than that and you go quiet. Apparently you missed this glaring stat 14 rebounds, 6 offensive rebounds. Versus 2 rebounds from Juwan.

    Bad shooting nights for Juwan (<30%)
    Feb 3: 2/8
    Jan 31: 2/7
    Jan 17: 2/10
    Jan 5: 3/11
    Dec 23: 2/10
    Dec 5: 0/5
    Nov 28: 0/3
    Nov 25: 0/4
    Nov 18: 0/4
    Nov 10: 0/2

    Bad shooting nights for Hayes (<30%)
    Today: 3/10
    Feb 9: 0/2
    Jan 12: 0/1
    Dec 20: 0/1
    Dec 8: 0/2
    Nov 28: 2/7
    Nov 4: 1/4

    As for that last minute in the fourth quarter, the ball shouldnt have been in his hands in the first place. The play went badly. Even if Jho was in game, the shot would not been from JHo. Hayes was on the court for a reason....and its not to have the ball in his hands. It is much more valuable to have an offensive rebound. They already got four shooters out on the court. Why do they need Howard?
     
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    Damnit, I passed out 10 min. before the game. Oh well, at least we got the win.

    I woke up hearing JVG on FSN and he made it sound like we lost. I wanted to go to this game...errr.
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    What a damn game! This was the best game of the season so far!! Tmac played amazing! And great job by Head at the end!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Umair Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What a damn game! This was the best game of the season so far!! Tmac played amazing! And great job by Head at the end!</div>

    I agree. I missed most of the game due to writing a lab report, but caught the last three minutes of the fourth quarter. After those clutch defensive plays (Head and Battier), I could feel my heart jump.
     
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    ^I feel much better.

    I guess I'm staying up to watch the rerun.
     
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    It was almost like the last game they played together. Ron Artest was just hot tonight. He bullied every player guarding him. Good thing TMac recovered in the final minutes. The last time Artest banked in a desperation 3 point shot this time it was TMac's turn to banked in, that gave the Rockets the lead in the 4th.

    Great hustle play by the Rockets in overtime.

    TracyMcGrady_01 thanks again for doing the preview. I appreciate all your efforts in filling up for the preview team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wait a minute...he goes 3/10 from the field and you want him gone? Ive seen Juwan have worst nights than that and you go quiet. Apparently you missed this glaring stat 14 rebounds, 6 offensive rebounds. Versus 2 rebounds from Juwan.</div>
    I don't care if he had 24 rebounds. He missed FOUR LAYUPS and turned the ball over in the last seconds of the game. Theres no excuse for that.

    <div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bad shooting nights for Juwan (<30%)

    Feb 3: 2/8
    Jan 31: 2/7
    Jan 17: 2/10
    Jan 5: 3/11
    Dec 23: 2/10
    Dec 5: 0/5
    Nov 28: 0/3
    Nov 25: 0/4
    Nov 18: 0/4
    Nov 10: 0/2

    Bad shooting nights for Hayes (<30%)
    Today: 3/10
    Feb 9: 0/2
    Jan 12: 0/1
    Dec 20: 0/1
    Dec 8: 0/2
    Nov 28: 2/7
    Nov 4: 1/4
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    Ok...Now post the "good" scoring nights they both had, and give me a shot chart of all the missed shots between Howard & Hayes (so we can see where exactly their missing shots). Also give me there free throw% so we can see who's offensivley more productive.

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    <div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">As for that last minute in the fourth quarter, the ball shouldnt have been in his hands in the first place. The play went badly. Even if Jho was in game, the shot would not been from JHo. Hayes was on the court for a reason....and its not to have the ball in his hands. It is much more valuable to have an offensive rebound. They already got four shooters out on the court. Why do they need Howard?</div>
    Why do they need Howard? What kinda question is that? Sacramento denied Tmac the ball and Hayes' man left him to guard Head. If Howard was in the game he'd SHOT THE DAMN BALL. When you have an offensive liability on the court, ur playing russian rulette with the ball game. I'm not sayin get rid of Hayes, but his role must be reduced. We have too many players not getting playin time for players to be missing 4 layups (in 1 game).
     
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    The majority of Chuck's missed layups are tip-ins. He needs to grab the ball with both hands, gather himself, and get up a good attempt or pass it back out. He rushes those putback attempts a lot.

    Chuck also needs to improve his passing when off the dribble. When he puts the ball on the floor (which is rare), he seems to have tunnel vision. Not a good combination for a player who is so unskilled as a ball-handler and scorer. On that last play, he should have passed it to Battier in the corner.

    Chuck ended up with 3 for 10 shooting and 14 rebounds (6 offensive). In a sense, those stats misrepresent what he did in this game. His 7 missed field goals didn't hurt the team quite as much, because most of them occurred off second chance opportunities he generated. At the same time, the value of those offensive rebounds is significantly reduced since he squandered so many of those second-chance opportunities.

    I was surprised that JVG left Chuck in game during that last offensive possession at the end of regulation. As a coach, he relies heavily on what "works" during the game. Even though Chuck didn't play particularly well, his hustle and defensive energy seemed to contribute (even if marginally so) to overall team success.
     
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    Wow, that was a good game. T-Mac carried us to a win. Rafer, Battier, Head, and T-Mac all played great and hit some big shots in crunch time. How many games do we have left agaisnt SAC, 1 or 2?

    I don't know why JVG was complaining about defense during the post-game interview. Unless he told them to step it up on D during the game, which they did when it mattered the most, especially Battier and Head.

    <div class="quote_poster">blueracer Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It was almost like the last game they played together. Ron Artest was just hot tonight. He bullied every player guarding him. Good thing TMac recovered in the final minutes. The last time Artest banked in a desperation 3 point shot this time it was TMac's turn to banked in, that gave the Rockets the lead in the 4th.
    Great hustle play by the Rockets in overtime.

    Yea, it seemed like it was the same game,
    TracyMcGrady_01 thanks again for doing the preview. I appreciate all your efforts in filling up for the preview team.</div>

    Yea. It reminded me of the last game in many ways as well.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The majority of Chuck's missed layups are tip-ins. He needs to grab the ball with both hands, gather himself, and get up a good attempt or pass it back out. He rushes those putback attempts a lot.

    Chuck also needs to improve his passing when off the dribble. When he puts the ball on the floor (which is rare), he seems to have tunnel vision. Not a good combination for a player who is so unskilled as a ball-handler and scorer. On that last play, he should have passed it to Battier in the corner.

    Chuck ended up with 3 for 10 shooting and 14 rebounds (6 offensive). In a sense, those stats misrepresent what he did in this game. His 7 missed field goals didn't hurt the team quite as much, because most of them occurred off second chance opportunities he generated. At the same time, the value of those offensive rebounds is significantly reduced since he squandered so many of those second-chance opportunities.

    I was surprised that JVG left Chuck in game during that last offensive possession at the end of regulation. As a coach, he relies heavily on what "works" during the game. Even though Chuck didn't play particularly well, his hustle and defensive energy seemed to contribute (even if marginally so) to overall team success.</div>
    Don't get me wrong, maybe his offensive rebounds were very important to the victory. But JVG often gives him too much leeway on the court. Hayes shouldn't play more than 10-15minutes a game. Last nite was an example of what happens when Howard doesn't finish games. While you appreciate his hustle, Hayes' lack of offense permits him to play big minutes. If JVG had as much trust in other players (like Snyder) as he does in Chuck Hayes, we'd be a better overrall team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't get me wrong, maybe his offensive rebounds were very important to the victory. But JVG often gives him too much leeway on the court. Hayes shouldn't play more than 10-15minutes a game. Last nite was an example of what happens when Howard doesn't finish games. While you appreciate his hustle, Hayes' lack of offense permits him to play big minutes. If JVG had as much trust in other players (like Snyder) as he does in Chuck Hayes, we'd be a better overrall team.</div>

    I don't think it's his lack of offense that allows him to play "big minutes" (in general, he's played far fewer minutes than Juwan since Yao's been out, btw). Unless you think JVG is mentally deranged, I don't know why you'd thik that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    Why do they need Howard? What kinda question is that? Sacramento denied Tmac the ball and Hayes' man left him to guard Head. If Howard was in the game he'd SHOT THE DAMN BALL. When you have an offensive liability on the court, ur playing russian rulette with the ball game. I'm not sayin get rid of Hayes, but his role must be reduced. We have too many players not getting playin time for players to be missing 4 layups (in 1 game).</div>

    Too many ifs. The point is that they did not run the offensive play they wanted, just like the Kings did not run theirs. Would you have argued to keep Artest out because he screwed up twice at the end? Juwan probably would have shot the ball, but you are basing it off that nobody else could. In that particular situation, it was more important to get an offensive rebound off a miss. The bottom line is the ball shouldnt have been put into Hayes hands.

    Wtf are you talking about russian rulette for. You know nothing. First of all, people run plays for a freaking reason. Contrary to your belief, basketball is not Russian rulette. The ball doesnt end up randomly into someone's hands. If someone shoots and miss, Hayes would be there for the rebound. In those final moments, Juwan would have been useless simply because he would not be the one to shoot the ball.

    Why dont you go back to your fantasy world where running bonzi, head, mcgrady, snyder, and howard would be the ultimate lineup to combating dallas and phoenix.

    I'm sure your extensive knowledge of basketball and superior intellectual abilities allow you to make the decisions that not even JVG (a proven winning coach) has ever thought of. That same extensive knowledge that provided you the insight that T-mac was our point guard for most of the season! Apparently something that "everyone" knew.

    You never think beyond why? Let me ask you...why do you think JVG played Hayes over Howard?

    What kind of statement is "Hayes lack of offense allows him to play minutes"
    Do you even read any of the nonsense you type? What the hell is that even supposed to mean? It doesnt make any sense. You think JVG allows Hayes to play minutes just to sabotage our offense?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    Why do they need Howard? What kinda question is that? Sacramento denied Tmac the ball and Hayes' man left him to guard Head. If Howard was in the game he'd SHOT THE DAMN BALL. When you have an offensive liability on the court, ur playing russian rulette with the ball game. I'm not sayin get rid of Hayes, but his role must be reduced. We have too many players not getting playin time for players to be missing 4 layups (in 1 game).</div>

    Too many ifs. The point is that they did not run the offensive play they wanted, just like the Kings did not run theirs. Would you have argued to keep Artest out because he screwed up twice at the end? Juwan probably would have shot the ball, but you are basing it off that nobody else could. In that particular situation, it was more important to get an offensive rebound off a miss. The bottom line is the ball shouldnt have been put into Hayes hands.

    Wtf are you talking about russian rulette for. You know nothing. First of all, people run plays for a freaking reason. Contrary to your belief, basketball is not Russian rulette. The ball doesnt end up randomly into someone's hands. If someone shoots and miss, Hayes would be there for the rebound. In those final moments, Juwan would have been useless simply because he would not be the one to shoot the ball.

    Why dont you go back to your fantasy world where running bonzi, head, mcgrady, snyder, and howard would be the ultimate lineup to combating dallas and phoenix.

    I'm sure your extensive knowledge of basketball and superior intellectual abilities allow you to make the decisions that not even JVG (a proven winning coach) has ever thought of. That same extensive knowledge that provided you the insight that T-mac was our point guard for most of the season! Apparently something that "everyone" knew.

    You never think beyond why? Let me ask you...why do you think JVG played Hayes over Howard?

    What kind of statement is "Hayes lack of offense allows him to play minutes"
    Do you even read what you type? What the hell is that even supposed to mean? It doesnt make any sense. You think JVG allows Hayes to play minutes just to sabotage our offense?

    That comment about Snyder shows how little you know. First of all, the only minutes snyder would take away from is Head and Wells. You want the coach to play Snyder over your beloved Wells or over clutch Head? He could play the 3, but that would limit battier's minutes. It's not that JVG has little confidence in Snyder, its that we have lots of swingmen.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think it's his lack of offense that allows him to play "big minutes" (in general, he's played far fewer minutes than Juwan since Yao's been out, btw). Unless you think JVG is mentally deranged, I don't know why you'd thik that.</div>
    It's his lack of offensive IQ that makes him unable to perform at a high level with big minutes. I think Van Gundy's too stubborn & close minded sometimes. Our defense is good, but offensivley we depend on Tmac too much. I'd like to see different lineups used to give Tmac more help offensivley.
     

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