So we can protect ourselves, and you say "it will stop criminals from getting them"...NOPE!!! Just like everything else in the world, criminals will still get what they want, it its guns. People need protection.
It's pointless in Arizona at least. I'm pretty sure I saw on that stupid laws website that you can only defend yourself with the other person's gun.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please explain why we couldn't live without guns...</div>Well, obviously we could live without guns. We could live without many things. Sports, television, cars, cell phones, etc. But that doesn't mean you take them away.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We have to hun-...Oh wait, there's a ... SUPERMARKET FOR THAT!</div>Yeah, and how do you think it gets there? Oh Yeah.They shoot them!!With GUNS!Guns are used for many things.1. Self protection2. For getting food3. Sport4. HobbiesThat should be a good starting point. Attack away gentlemen.
Dude, you're missing the point austingriz. If nobody except perhaps police had guns, then you wouldn't need to worry about being shot. And if you were attacked, they'd be close so you can ID them if you want, instead of being shot in a drive by with no chance of revenge.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 11 2007, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude, you're missing the point austingriz. If nobody except perhaps police had guns, then you wouldn't need to worry about being shot. And if you were attacked, they'd be close so you can ID them if you want, instead of being shot in a drive by with no chance of revenge.</div>How are you going to make that happen Einstein? Criminals will still get them no matter what. Smuggle them, make them, buy them off the streets, whatever. That leaves Joe Average without guns, Joe Criminal with guns. I don't really give a crap if I can ID them. It won't heal me or bring me back to live.
.... But you have like a 10x greater chance of NOT dying if they are forced to attack you close range than if they can just blast your face off.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 11 2007, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>.... But you have like a 10x greater chance of NOT dying if they are forced to attack you close range than if they can just blast your face off.</div>But the point is they will still be able to blast my face off, yet I will have absolutely no chance, because he has a gun and I don't.
So your defense is that CRIMINALS will be able to get guns no matter what. My response to that is not if we allowed them too. The market for an illegal gun would be a small one. So small the prices would be out of most criminals reach.Not to mention that even if a FEW had them, it would completely minimize everything. You can't eliminate everything completely, but you can try your hardest to. Lives will be saved no doubt. So is hunting, and hobbies enough cause to not save lives and make the world a better place? I don't think so.You don't need a gun to protect yourself. Get a stun gun. Get a baseball bat. Get something else if somebody breaks into your house...
It's kinda like marijuana. If we lifted the ban, it'd just be crazy and widespread like guns. But putting laws on it stops the people like myself who say 'not really a point in breaking the law for that'. We could use the metal of the guns to make something else <strike>like a nuclear bomb</strike> useful.
I'm in law enforcement so I have to be for gun control. I don't like guns but it's a reality. I pretty much agree with Timothy McVeigh's stance on weapons/gun control.
[quote name='Combs' post='332558' date='Apr 11 2007, 09:47 PM']So your defense is that CRIMINALS will be able to get guns no matter what. My response to that is not if we allowed them too. The market for an illegal gun would be a small one. So small the prices would be out of most criminals reach.Not to mention that even if a FEW had them, it would completely minimize everything. You can;t ever eliminate everything complete, but you can try your hardest by it. Lives will be saved no doubt. So is hunting, and hobbies enough cause to not save lives and make the world a better place? I don't think so.You don't need a gun to protect yourself. Get a stun gun. Get a baseball bat. Get something else if somebody breaks into your house...[/quote]The market for a gun would be a huge one. How would it not be? It's an easy way for a robbery or break-in. Criminals eyes would be lighting up if there was a gun ban. There would be more break-ins due to there is no fear of the homeowner wielding a firearm.Here is an article that is interesting to me.http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchive...p;articleid=409
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How are you going to make that happen Einstein? Criminals will still get them no matter what. Smuggle them, make them, buy them off the streets, whatever. That leaves Joe Average without guns, Joe Criminal with guns. I don't really give a crap if I can ID them. It won't heal me or bring me back to live.</div>except for the fact that statistically you're about 5 times as likely to be murdered if you have a gun.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 11 2007, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not letting the government take my guns away.</div>hey, what you doin' with my pieces?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Apr 11 2007, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>except for the fact that statistically you're about 5 times as likely to be murdered if you have a gun.</div>How so?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How so?</div>that's like saying"Kobe Bryant's jersey number is #24""how so?"
I also like guns. Every since I was a little boy my family has taught me about weaponry for that one faithful day that Allah calls upon me to do his duty.
OK lets try a different approach.Will more or less people be murdered with a ban of guns?Honest answer please.
