Guys....Mark Blount is a stud.....but what if..

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  1. Sabretooth

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    Minnesota Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Mark Blount
    7-0 C from Pittsburgh
    13.3 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.9 minutes

    Marko Jaric
    6-7 SG from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
    5.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 21.6 minutes
    Incoming

    Pau Gasol
    7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
    18.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.4 apg in 30.4 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -0.2 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and -0.3 apg.

    Memphis Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Pau Gasol
    7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
    18.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.4 apg in 30.4 minutes
    Incoming

    Mark Blount
    7-0 C from Pittsburgh
    13.3 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.9 minutes

    Marko Jaric
    6-7 SG from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
    5.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 21.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +0.2 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and +0.3 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Minnesota and Memphis being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Minnesota and Memphis had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    It has been documented that Pau wants to leave and so does Marko. I would Loooooooovvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeee to put Hudson in there instead of Blount, but we're dealing with Jerry West here. I would also like to package Marko, Griffen, and Troy like this:
    Minnesota Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Troy Hudson
    6-1 PG from Southern Illinois
    5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 15.0 minutes

    Marko Jaric
    6-7 SG from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
    5.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 21.6 minutes

    Eddie Griffin
    6-10 PF from Seton Hall
    1.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.0 minutes
    Incoming

    Pau Gasol
    7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
    18.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.4 apg in 30.4 minutes

    Dahntay Jones
    6-5 SG from Duke
    7.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.5 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +14.0 ppg, +2.8 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

    Memphis Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Pau Gasol
    7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
    18.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.4 apg in 30.4 minutes

    Dahntay Jones
    6-5 SG from Duke
    7.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.5 minutes
    Incoming

    Troy Hudson
    6-1 PG from Southern Illinois
    5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 15.0 minutes

    Marko Jaric
    6-7 SG from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
    5.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 21.6 minutes

    Eddie Griffin
    6-10 PF from Seton Hall
    1.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.0 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -14.0 ppg, -2.8 rpg, and +0.5 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Minnesota and Memphis being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Minnesota and Memphis had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    But the only one I'd think they'd bite on is Blount. Blount is very close to a keeper but Gasol is a post presence that we haven't had before. Don't misunderstand, Blount is in the caliber of when he misses, you are surprised and I believe he's playing some of the best ball that he has in his career. But we've seen numerous times that, when the shots aren't falling, the team struggles. Post play is essential in the playoffs and Gasol has that. I also looked at Ricky D and Marko/Troy, but don't think they'd bite either. They seem to be talking to Chicago about the deal they were going to offer for KG.

    The main thing I'm asking is this. Gasol for Blount (Marko is a goner anyway). The salaries for Marko and Blount match up and are for almost the same duration. It also shows KG that we are serious about winning. And if he decides to move on, we have Gasol. In a good world, we could get Gasol and possibly trade him to Chicago for the same chips we were thinking of trading for KG.....without him going. I know his salary is up there, but we'd have 2 double-teamable post players, plenty of guards to shoot. I think a healthy Gasol and KG would be quite a spectacle. Stern would like it for revenue.

    Am I dreaming again?
     
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    Jerry West ain't no fool.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Jerry West ain't no fool.</div>

    Do you think he'll want to keep a player who doesn't want to be there? Or do you think we just don't have the chips to offer?
     
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    You'd have to add Randy Foye to the package and he might listen.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You'd have to add Randy Foye to the package and he might listen.</div>

    If they were not willing to part with Foye for Allen Iverson, what makes you think Gasol would be any different? The Wolves really don't have the pieces right now to pull off a big time trade without involving a third team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If they were not willing to part with Foye for Allen Iverson</div>

    I still think this is speculatory. I don't know if we had the guys Philly would've wanted WITH FOYE.
     
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    Even if Jerry West was desperate to trade Gasol, I'm pretty sure he can get a better deal than Blount + Jaric. That's probably worse, or as bad as the Vince Carter trade with Toronto and New Jersey.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">DIRK4L1FE Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Even if Jerry West was desperate to trade Gasol, I'm pretty sure he can get a better deal than Blount + Jaric. That's probably worse, or as bad as the Vince Carter trade with Toronto and New Jersey.</div>

    Blount's been killer lately. He's one of the reasons that Wolves are where they are and not in the Western Cellar. He's a good worker who only practices "in game" shots. Not heaving up half-court shots or ridiculous reverse dunks. He's constantly working on his mid-range plus game. He has hit the three, but unlike one of our other Centers, he doesn't try to live out there. Usually his mid-range release is nothing but net and he works in the post.

    He has been a good surprise from what we were expecting from the Boston deal.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Guys....Mark Blount is a stud.....</div>

    (???)... If i knew how to type a farting noise i'd put it in those parenthesis. Mark Blount is not a stud and he isnt someone near Pau's level. Unless you thought Jaric was a stud than maybe in your mind this trade works. Mark Blount is just a 7 footer who can now hit a jump shot, and grab 2 rebounds a game. This is a slap to Pau Gasols already messed up face. In no way am i saying he didnt get better cuz he did but their are a lot of big guys who can hit the same shots he's shooting.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">samoan-maverick Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">(???)... If i knew how to type a farting noise i'd put it in those parenthesis. Mark Blount is not a stud and he isnt someone near Pau's level. Unless you thought Jaric was a stud than maybe in your mind this trade works. Mark Blount is just a 7 footer who can now hit a jump shot, and grab 2 rebounds a game. This is a slap to Pau Gasols already messed up face. In no way am i saying he didnt get better cuz he did but their are a lot of big guys who can hit the same shots he's shooting.</div>

    Since 2007

    Blount
    Detroit: 22 pts and 15 Rebounds
    Hawks: 16 pts and 11 Rebounds
    At Pistons: 10 - 4
    Nets: 15 - 7
    Grizzlies: 8 - 8 (he took 7 shots)
    Clippers: 21 - 6
    Rockets: 21 - 10
    76er's: 16 - 10
    Spurs: 28 - 4
    Bobcats: 21 - 7

    Gasol
    76ers: 12 - 12
    Suns: 23 - 9
    Bulls: 16 - 13
    Wolves: 20 - 5
    Lakers: 25 - 13
    Spurs: 24 - 6
    Celtics: 24 - 7
    Warriors: 24 - 13

    When averaged out, Gasol is around 21 - 9.75 when Blount is 17.8 - 8.2. You make is sound as if Blount is Jake Tsakalidas or something.
     
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    If the Grizzlies trade Pau Gasol away, it will most likely be for a package of draft picks, expiring contracts, and young talent. If the Grizzlies are willing to part ways with their star player, Pau Gasol, it means that they are looking to rebuild. Jaric and Blount don't really offer them any flexibility. Jaric has a huge contract, which is definetly not something a rebuilding team is looking for. Mark Blount has been stepping it up lately, but the guy is 30 years old, and if I remember correctly, he also has a huge contract. From a Grizzlies stand point of view, that would not be a good trade for the franchise, because two "old" players with huge contracts isn't the way to go if you're looking to rebuild
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If the Grizzlies trade Pau Gasol away, it will most likely be for a package of draft picks, expiring contracts, and young talent. If the Grizzlies are willing to part ways with their star player, Pau Gasol, it means that they are looking to rebuild. Jaric and Blount don't really offer them any flexibility. Jaric has a huge contract, which is definetly not something a rebuilding team is looking for. Mark Blount has been stepping it up lately, but the guy is 30 years old, and if I remember correctly, he also has a huge contract. From a Grizzlies stand point of view, that would not be a good trade for the franchise, because two "old" players with huge contracts isn't the way to go if you're looking to rebuild</div>

    If Matt Millen was the GM, we'd have a chance[​IMG] [​IMG]
     

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