Harpring/Boozer Situation

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  1. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    In my fantasy draft I picked Harpring in about the 6th round thinking "Wow, what a steal", but then I realized that he and Boozer play the same position. To make the situation even worse, I had picked Boozer in the round before. I'm not sure if anyone has any information on how Sloan plans to play them, but any help would be greatly appreciated. I got offered Corey Maggette and Tony Parker for the both of them. I accepted, but I could still cancel it within the next two days. Does anybody have advice or insight? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. shankyoass

    shankyoass Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

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    ok, theres good news, bad news and horrible news for you.

    Good news is Matt Harpring doesnt play the same position as Boozer!!!! Harpring is a SG/SF (aka a swingman) while Boozer is a PF!!!!! isnt this great?!?!

    the bad news is Harpring is coming off the bench. It has been said and everything. He is not starting. I think it might be something with previous injuries or sumthin.

    now for the horrible news...the starting SG for the Jazz is Girececk. The starting SF is Kirelnko. Kirelnko is an All-star. He plays a lot of minutes. He is also a very well rounded and good player. If Harpring plays alongside Kirelnko, hes pretty much not gonna produce well. Girececk is an offensive machine. With the arrival of Boozer and the blooming of Arroy, they dont need Harpring to score. They need him to show leadership on the court. Theres also a Raja Bell who plays both SG and SF. Since Kirelnko plays a lot of minutes, Harpring pretty much shares minutes with Girececk and Bell. 3 people sharing 48 minutes. Girececk will most likely play 25 - 28 MPG. that leaves 20 - 23 MPG to share between these two players. If Girececk plays more minutes, Harpring and Bell's will suffer. I dont see Matt Harpring being on the court for more than 15MPG.

    My opinion. Get rid of Harpring, and good luck in ur fantasy leauge.
     
  3. Zhone

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    I think Corey Maggette and Tony Parker (without looking at your specific team needs) is a great trade. I think Maggette provide a ton of scoring this year since Q-Rich is gone, and although he's not great at anything else, extra minutes could lead him into stumbling into more stats.

    The short of it is, you're getting a guy people draft in the late 3rd round (Maggette) and the early 6 th round (Parker) for a guy in the late 4th round (Boozer) and a guy who's been going in the 7th round (Harp).

    People who value Boozer highly are taking a risk because he still hasn't shown me that his offense is greatly improved, and his rebounding isn't going to change much because there are only so many loose balls you can grab, and there will be less with Okur and Kirilenko filling up the lanes. As for Harp, well, jtam already noted his position in the rotation - probably 6th man, or unlikely starter at SG. He'll get minutes, but his place in the rotation is uncertain. Parker has been improving every year, and although he's inconsistent, he's sure to be a starter and get 14 points and 6 assists with a few steals at minimum. Considering the premium on true point guards, he's worth much more in a trade than Harp if you already have a PG, or worth starting at PG if you need one.
     
  4. Jerry West

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    I wouldn't have Harpring on any roster, unless you were looking at a massive league.

    His injury concerns, along with the added depth in Utah makes me wonder if he'll be anything more than a bit player.
     
  5. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Good news is Matt Harpring doesnt play the same position as Boozer!!!! Harpring is a SG/SF (aka a swingman) while Boozer is a PF!!!!! isnt this great?!?!</div>

    I'm not arguing, but last year I had him as my starting PF on my fantasy team.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">the bad news is Harpring is coming off the bench. It has been said and everything. He is not starting. I think it might be something with previous injuries or sumthin.</div>

    He's still listed as a starter (SG) on the depth chart; however, Sloan just said he's tweaking his lineups for the regular season, so that could mean moving Harpring to the bench.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and his rebounding isn't going to change much because there are only so many loose balls you can grab,</div>

    Well, rebounds are more powerful of a statistic than points in most fantasy leagues though. There's a load of players who will consistantly get you 10-30 points a game, but it's pretty unique to find a player who gets you 10 or more.

    BTW - I got Boozer #61 (7th round) as a steal and Harpring #100 (10th round) which I thought was a pretty good pick. Maggette was pick #60, and Parker was pick #102. I accepted the trade.

    Thanks for your help everyone.
     
  6. Zhone

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    Your league is strange; I've seen both Boozer and Maggette as high as the 30's, and Parker as high as the 5th round. Maggette's rebounding is better than most people think, too.
     
  7. og15

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    Yea, Maggette averages 5.9 rebounds a game.

    Maggette is a legit 22-6-3 guys this season, won't give you steals, but good [or at least decent] percentages, and win you FT categories.
     
  8. Voodoo Child

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    So far pulling the trigger on this deal has almost single handedly dropped me two spots in my league's rankings. Maggette and Parker had awful first two games, and Harpring and Boozer have been ripping it up in Utah. Harpring was just named co-captain. I'm not making any judgement on this trade until later on in the season though. I have a feeling Maggette was just getting off to a slow start and Harpring will cool down as well.
     
  9. Zhone

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    Maggette has been playing with a non-displaced fracture of his right pinky finger AND had back spasms before Saturday's game (and heck, he still played pretty well.)

    I did underrate Harp though, he's been playing big minutes for the Jazz. I haven't been watching San Antonio enough, but Barry and Ginobili have been playing really well and cutting into Parker's minutes.
     
  10. Voodoo Child

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">(and heck, he still played pretty well.)</div>

    He played well and gave me good statistics in the points, rebounds, and assists columns. However, I'm getting killed in %'s and TO's, and that's where Maggette became a liability. Even last night when he had his first big game of the season, he still got seven turnovers or so. I was already first in my league in points, so his contributions didn't help me too much there, while his turnovers gave me the worst turnover number in my league. I'm hoping he'll start shooting better and start handling the ball better soon. I'm going to wait until he has back to back games with good percentages and a low turnover number before I put him back into my rotation though.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I haven't been watching San Antonio enough, but Barry and Ginobili have been playing really well and cutting into Parker's minutes.</div>

    Actually, I haven't been watching them enough either. I haven't even been following what Parker has been doing, but when I glance over my team's stats from the previous nights, I always see that Parker got me a lot of turnovers and shot a bad percentage. I'm trying to ship him off in a Shaq/Parker for Pierce/Dunleavy deal.
     

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