Harrington appears headed elsewhere (not Indiana)

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By Mike Wells
mike.wells@indystar.com

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Indiana Pacers may have lost their chance to reacquire Al Harrington.
The Atlanta Hawks plan to open negotiations with other teams for a possible sign-and-trade deal after not being able to agree with the Pacers, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.
The Hawks were ready to sign Harrington to a six-year, $57 million deal, then send him and center John Edwards to the Pacers for their $7.5 million trade exception and a future first-round draft pick when Indiana owner Herb Simon nixed the deal because he didn't like the length of Harrington's contract. Simon wanted Harrington, 26, to sign a four-year deal worth about $9 million a season, and he also doesn't want Edwards, the person said.
Simon, team president Larry Bird and CEO Donnie Walsh did not return several phone messages seeking comment Friday.
The Pacers, who are trying to rebound from a disappointing season, have spent more than a month trying to work out a deal with the Hawks. The Pacers were the front-runners for Harrington, who spent his first six seasons here, but they'll have trouble getting him now. Denver and Golden State are believed to be willing to acquire Harrington for about $65 million over six years. The Los Angeles Lakers are also expected to be in the mix.
Harrington has spent the past two seasons in Atlanta, averaging 18.1 points per game.
Without Harrington, the Pacers' status in the Eastern Conference is unsettled. They have acquired eight new players this summer, but they haven't landed a player with the ability to compliment Jermaine O'Neal. They traded Ron Artest for Peja Stojakovic in January, then shipped Stojakovic to New Orleans in a sign-and-trade deal last month.
The Pacers still have trade exceptions of $7.5 million and $2.6 million, the midlevel exception of about $5.2 million and their bi-annual exception of $1.7 million to use this summer.
"We have done a lot of things to this point," Walsh said earlier this week. "We've got another month and a half until training camp, so there is plenty of time to get our roster how we want it."
Walsh also said earlier this week that they're willing to start camp with the current roster, then look to make other moves.
"Some times you have to go into training camp not having everything you want," Walsh said. "We don't normally do things that way, but that's always an option."
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4 years at $9 million is much more reasonable (and sensible) than 6 years at $11 million. I hope Mullin doesn't see this as an opportunity to "come through" on his off-season promises and cave in. Well, actually, he wouldn't be caving in because apparently he already tried to offer 6 years at $11 million (WTF?) with trade of Troy. Hopefully he's come to his senses. Murph for Al straight up, however, is fine with me.

 

If Harrington isn't a good small forward fit for us and he ends up robbing power forward from Ike or Taft or somebody else down the line, we're going to be sorry. I just think he's the Dampier of this year's offseason. He'll get a lot of hype and some fool is going to overpay and pretty soon AH won't be the talk of whatever team he goes to. I mean the guy is no star, just look at the Hawks record. If he's no star, let's not overpay, especially for a guy that doesn't play much D, rebound, pass, and dribble.

 

Agreed. Harrington is no star. He's acting like he's the next LeBron James or something. I mean c'mon. There's a reason why you don't hear the term "tweener" very often/ It's because guys try to avoid it. I mean, either you're a guard, or a forward. If you're somewhere in between, it's different, sure, but it means you don't do either job excedingly well. Harrington can score, sure. But he doesn't have great handles or quickness, and he's not a guard. If he were a pure 2 he wouldn't start. But he also doesn't play like a big man. He doesn't rebound all that well and doesn't punish anyone inside. He's blocked about 5 shots in his entire career. He's not a pure "big man." He uses soft touch around the hoop, alot like Antawn "tweener" Jamison.

Harrington's stats are nice. They're not elite, but they're good. They're JRich's numbers a few years ago, before JRich actually became a star. JRich used to score 18 or 19 a game. Now he drops 23.

Harrington provides some scoring, but so do a lot of players in this league. What separates good scorers from good players is everything else they bring to the team. harrington ain't taking no team to the playoffs on his shoulders, but he'll compliment a superstar player on a good team as a third option.

4 years, 9 million is about all I'd give him.

 

I wondering if Mullin dosen't trade for Harrington and The Lakers wind up with him,will he wind up getting the Lakers to the second round of the playoffs while we end up out of the playoffs again Either way it will be a gutsy move to make or not make. Roll the dice and risk being in salary cap hell for a long time with no guarantee of playoffs or do nothing and end up looking like fools when Harrington makes another team stronger and successful. We will just have to wait and see what happens

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Three alternative Harrington deals

By SEKOU SMITH
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 08/20/06

In the pantheon of recent Hawks minidramas, and there have been many, none has the mystery, intrigue and exhausting qualities of the still-yet-to-be-completed Al Harrington sign-and-trade soap opera.

A deal with the Indiana Pacers was "imminent" for weeks and underwent more face-lifts than Joan Rivers before dying on the negotiating table Friday.

Agents have been fired and hired, and most of the central figures in this sideshow have chosen to remain silent on the details.

Not even last summer's organization-splitting Joe Johnson sign-and-trade deal captivated its audience the way the Harrington drama has. And that deal beat this one to the finish line; Johnson officially became a member of the Hawks on Aug. 19. It's Aug. 20 and Harrington is still waiting to find out his fate.

All of this could have been avoided had Harrington been dealt at the February trade deadline, as he desired, for far more than the Hawks likely will get in return ? and a lot more than they would have gotten if the deal with the Pacers had been finalized. In that deal, Harrington would have been signed to a six-year, $57 million contract and then been sent, along with John Edwards, to Indiana for a future first-round draft pick. That was a bargain for the Pacers.

Now that the deal has fallen through and Harrington and his new agent, Arn Tellem, have opened the process back up entirely, it's time for new options.

The Hawks must decide if they're going to rethink their position of not taking on contracts and must come up with a scenario that makes sense for the long-term benefit of the franchise. Letting Harrington walk without getting anything in return is the only bad option.

So while we all wait for a new "imminent" deal to emerge, why not consider these three new options?




Hawks trade options

? 1. Do a sign-and-trade with the Lakers for Chris Mihm, Aaron McKie, Brian Cook and a future draft pick.

Mihm is making $4.2 million this season, McKie $2.5 million and Cook just $1.5 million. All three are in contract years, meaning the Hawks would have the option of re-signing them if they fit in well with their young talent or letting them move on at season's end. The draft pick is the cherry on top.

? 2. Do a sign-and-trade with the Nuggets for Joe Smith, a future first-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Smith is another solid veteran power forward in a contract year. He'll make $6.8 million this season. The $3 million essentially cuts his salary in half, and the Hawks still get the draft pick they covet.

? 3. Sign-and-trade Harrington and send him to Golden State for Mickael Pietrus, Zarko Cabarkapa, Andris Bierdins and a future draft pick.

Convincing a team to give up three young and relatively inexpensive talents, all three in contract years, and a draft pick would be the steal of the century for the Hawks. But if the Warriors are as eager to get their hands on Harrington as has been rumored, maybe itճ more than just a pipe dream. Pietrus ($2.5 million) Cabarkapa ($2.1) and Bierdins ($1.9) would fortify the Hawksՠroster at three different positions (small forward, power forward and center) without busting the budget. The draft pick is gravy
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It dosen't take a genius to realize that the Warriors would be out of their minds to do this trade. Obviously i would prefer to trade Dunleavy or Murphy for Harrington but, the thing that I hate is the draft pick. Why would we throw away a draft pick that with our luck would turn out to be the number one pick? I wouldn't mind getting Harrington but, not with this trade.

 

If we ever pull out those type of trade, which we gave up bunch of rookie contracts for Harrington, I will seriously consider giving up on Warriors. Even if we swap big contract for big contract like Murphy for Harrington, I won't be thrilled with it. But, if we don't dump one of big contract for Harrington, our cap situation will be smaller version of NY. And giving up young talents at the same time for a player who doesn't address our needs? Mullin would surpass Twerdzik if he makes that type of trade...

 

Yeah, if Mullin trades ANY of Beans, Ike, Monta, or even Taft or POB for that matter, to get Harrington, that will be the ultimate demonstration of his incompetence. Murph for Harrington I'm okay with. But NO prospects! What's the point? It's not like you're adding a star who'll take you to the playoffs. This team doesn't need to acquire a decent-good scoring tweener. That won't make them contenders.

The only single piece they could pick up to make them instant contenders (assuming everyone else stays healthy and plays well) would be a star-caliber center. But there are none for sale.

This roster is kinda f*cked up. The Fisher move was brilliant. GS dropped a big, long term contract for three 1-year deals. That's awesome.

But still, it's like we have two players who can take us there in Baron and JRich. We have several young players who could eventually be the other key pieces of the puzzle in Ike, Beans, and/or Monta. But by the time those three youngs become ready to be big-time starters, Baron and JRich's contracts will be coming up. The timing's all wrong. It'll work for a few years (especially if the youngs can start producing as starters by next year) but there are several problems. One is that Mullin's vision was a core with JRich, Troy, Dunleavy, Fisher, and Foyle, eventually adding Baron. He never considered his core would / should be JRich, Baron, Ike, Beans, and Monta. So now he needs to like juggle the whole game plan and start building around a modified core.

But in order to "make way" for Beans, Monta, and Ike, GS needs some $$$. In other words, they must dump Adonal Foyle. And Troy Murphy. Problem is, I have better chances of getting traded than Adonal Foyle. and no I'm not in the NBA. So, Mullin f*cked up. There's no other way to put it. He envisioned a core that included a long term, heavily paid Adonal Foyle. Did he really think he could dump Foyle if the love affair went sour? C'mon.

That's why I think Kwan's analysis does, after all, make the most sense. The Warriors are in a pickle. The way Mullin has thrown all his chips on the table, the bet is what it is. The cards have been dealt. The Warriors can't simply rebuild, yet they can't stay the course and simply hope to resign their prospects because there will be no $$ to do so.

Either the Warriors

1) Find a miraculous way to dump Adonal Foyle for expiring contracts or

2)They *sob* *sob* need to "cash in" and use the prospects as trade bait to get a semi-super star who will give them a few years of contention in the playoffs. Then, every one will grow older and contracts will come up, the Warriors will fizzle out, JRich will leave for a bigger contract, Baron will leave for the rap industry, Foyle will exercise his player option so he can stay with the team and get paid $12 million when he's 40 years old (a good faith deal ala Kirk Rueter), Dunleavy will become the new face of the franchise averaging 17-4-4, Pietrus will be defensive player of the year in Denver, Monta will win the slam dunk competition and sign a 6 year $60 mils. deal with the Jazz, Beans will go to the Lakers and will punish the Warriors inside, dominating the paint and throwing down jams on Foyle's chrome dome, Mullin and Monty will be long gone, Cohan will have some half-wit in here piece-mealing a team together out of CBA rentals and they'll be running commercials like "Dunleavy is ready.... Adonal is back.... a new and improved Mark Madsen in the fold... the Warriors are here... it's a great time out!"

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, if Mullin trades ANY of Beans, Ike, Monta, or even Taft or POB for that matter, to get Harrington, that will be the ultimate demonstration of his incompetence. Murph for Harrington I'm okay with. But NO prospects! What's the point? It's not like you're adding a star who'll take you to the playoffs. This team doesn't need to acquire a decent-good scoring tweener. That won't make them contenders.

The only single piece they could pick up to make them instant contenders (assuming everyone else stays healthy and plays well) would be a star-caliber center. But there are none for sale.

This roster is kinda f*cked up. The Fisher move was brilliant. GS dropped a big, long term contract for three 1-year deals. That's awesome.

But still, it's like we have two players who can take us there in Baron and JRich. We have several young players who could eventually be the other key pieces of the puzzle in Ike, Beans, and/or Monta. But by the time those three youngs become ready to be big-time starters, Baron and JRich's contracts will be coming up. The timing's all wrong. It'll work for a few years (especially if the youngs can start producing as starters by next year) but there are several problems. One is that Mullin's vision was a core with JRich, Troy, Dunleavy, Fisher, and Foyle, eventually adding Baron. He never considered his core would / should be JRich, Baron, Ike, Beans, and Monta. So now he needs to like juggle the whole game plan and start building around a modified core.

But in order to "make way" for Beans, Monta, and Ike, GS needs some $$$. In other words, they must dump Adonal Foyle. And Troy Murphy. Problem is, I have better chances of getting traded than Adonal Foyle. and no I'm not in the NBA. So, Mullin f*cked up. There's no other way to put it. He envisioned a core that included a long term, heavily paid Adonal Foyle. Did he really think he could dump Foyle if the love affair went sour? C'mon.

That's why I think Kwan's analysis does, after all, make the most sense. The Warriors are in a pickle. The way Mullin has thrown all his chips on the table, the bet is what it is. The cards have been dealt. The Warriors can't simply rebuild, yet they can't stay the course and simply hope to resign their prospects because there will be no $$ to do so.

Either the Warriors

1) Find a miraculous way to dump Adonal Foyle for expiring contracts or

2)They *sob* *sob* need to "cash in" and use the prospects as trade bait to get a semi-super star who will give them a few years of contention in the playoffs. Then, every one will grow older and contracts will come up, the Warriors will fizzle out, JRich will leave for a bigger contract, Baron will leave for the rap industry, Foyle will exercise his player option so he can stay with the team and get paid $12 million when he's 40 years old (a good faith deal ala Kirk Rueter), Dunleavy will become the new face of the franchise averaging 17-4-4, Pietrus will be defensive player of the year in Denver, Monta will win the slam dunk competition and sign a 6 year $60 mils. deal with the Jazz, Beans will go to the Lakers and will punish the Warriors inside, dominating the paint and throwing down jams on Foyle's chrome dome, Mullin and Monty will be long gone, Cohan will have some half-wit in here piece-mealing a team together out of CBA rentals and they'll be running commercials like "Dunleavy is ready.... Adonal is back.... a new and improved Mark Madsen in the fold... the Warriors are here... it's a great time out!"</div>

We (LA) don't want Harrington either (creepy tweener)... Anyway, great post, this forum really is nice like they say. I loved the last part about Beans giving it hard to Foyle. Nice image.

 

I'd take Harrington if the price is reasonable, but the main reason I'd want to see Murphy in the trade is to make room for Ike. Think of it this way, player for player even if you assume Murphy vs. Harrington is a wash, it gives you two positive things if you are a Warrior fan:

1) Less playing time for Dun.
2) More playing time for Ike.

That's all good for me.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting huevonkiller:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyway, great post, this forum really is nice like they say.</div>

Thanks for the compliment.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting huevonkiller:</div><div class="quote_post">I loved the last part about Beans giving it hard to Foyle. Nice image. </div>

Hey! That was theoretical!! Don't get your hopes up

*sigh* But it will probably happen

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting HiRez:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd take Harrington if the price is reasonable, but the main reason I'd want to see Murphy in the trade is to make room for Ike. Think of it this way, player for player even if you assume Murphy vs. Harrington is a wash, it gives you two positive things if you are a Warrior fan:

1) Less playing time for Dun.
2) More playing time for Ike.

That's all good for me.</div>

Good points. Again, I don't mind the swap of Murph for Al straight up (for points mentioned), but throwing in anything other Foyle, McCleod, Brown, Zarko, or Cheaney would be a mistake.

This whole "toss in" a prospect and a draft pick makes me want to puke.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting HiRez:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd take Harrington if the price is reasonable, but the main reason I'd want to see Murphy in the trade is to make room for Ike. Think of it this way, player for player even if you assume Murphy vs. Harrington is a wash, it gives you two positive things if you are a Warrior fan:

1) Less playing time for Dun.
2) More playing time for Ike.

That's all good for me.</div>

I see no problem with the Harrington deal if we can get him for 4 years at 9 million and have him play SF. As for Ike getting more playing time, that is something I doubt. My feeling is that Monty will start Ike, but have a way to give Dunleavy more playing time at PF than Ike will.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CABANGBANG:</div><div class="quote_post">As for Ike getting more playing time, that is something I doubt. My feeling is that Monty will start Ike, but have a way to give Dunleavy more playing time at PF than Ike will.</div>Thank you, sir, you just ruined my day. Because I know you are probably right about that.

 

Okay, I'm going to contradict myself in the same sentance:

Monty gave way too long a leash to Foyle, Fisher, and Dunleavy last year, but I don't think Monty is as bent on playing those players as people make him out to be.

What's up with that stance? Well, what I mean is that, I do think Monty favored Foyle, Dun, and Fish way way way too much last year. I just don't think that was primarily because of his disposition as a coach. I think it had more to do with having no clout with the clipboard and feeling pressure from management and ownership to get it done. Even Adonal Foyle had more seniority than Monty last year, and I believe he was just in an awkward position with his personnel.

I believe this year that Monty will show more willingness to both bench starters and play rookies/prospects. I don't think the center position is any longer Foyle's hands down. I think Monty will allow Beans to win it, if Beans can win it (if...lol...c'mon!). I do believe Troy is cemented as the starting PF but Ike will see more PT. Even last year we saw much more of Monta Ellis than anyone expected, simply because he was producing. Monty coudln'ttake him out of the game.

I just don't think Montgomery ever established a firm hold on how to deal with your players, how to establish starting roles, and how to maintain accountability. I'm not sure he's got it yet, but I think he'll be more willing to loosen up and play the young players.

In other words, I don't see Dunleavy getting too much time at PF personally.

 

The only Harrington trade I'd be ok with the Warriors making is Harrington for Dunleavy (and possibly Pietrus).

Any trade that has Dunleavy and Harrington on the same roster is just really stupid. First of all, like I've said before, I don't think Harrington will benefit the Warriors at all, since his main attribute is scoring and he's not going to be doing nearly as much of that with Baron and Jason on the roster. And on top of it, the Warriors would still need to add a post scorer, which would give Harrington even less touches.

Secondly, why the heck would you trade a productive, albeit overpaid power forward for a less productive and even more overpaid sf would put our already under productive and overpaid sf on the bench, further killing his trade value (or platooning with said incumbent sf and killing both their trade values). Oh, and did I mention that since the Warriors would be overpaying for Harrington because of his scoring prowess and then putting him on a team that doesn't need a scoring sf, they'd kill his trade value too?

I have to stop reading about Harrington, I see absolutely no benefit to it and it’s getting to the point that I'm getting physically angry just thinking about it.

 

Well the only thing about that is Indiana most likely wouldn't want to touch 'ol boy Dunleavy. That's why people are talking about the Murphy for Harrington trade, because that appears to be what was/is on the table.

As far as Murphy being more productive than Harrington, I don't get it? Murph averaged 3.1 more rebounds per game, but Harrington averaged 4.6 points per game. The other numbers average out (efficiency about the same with Murphy slightly better, Al had a better FG% but Murph a better 3pt%, Al had more assists but also more turnovers, more steals but worse FT%, etc)

Basically if anything these two players are a wash. I don't really like Harrington that much to be honest. However, I'm not on Murphy's fan-wagon either.

Harrington is an unimpressive tweener who scored at a decent clip on a bad team. But the reason why I don't mind the swap at all is because it'll mean opening up playing time for Ike. that's really the only reason, because otherwise Murphy is going to start at PF for the next 4 years and Ike will be a long-term backup. Which I don't like.

 

Mullin's unending love for Dunleavy at SF and Mullin's hope that one day Jr. will be like him is the one thing I can rest easy about over Harrington getting overpaid as a Warrior. What is scary though is Mullin seems to build a team around guys he likes without giving much overall thought to the team. Knicks GM, Isiah Thomas, and his combo guard mess is one example how one GM can make bad personal judgement because he likes guys more like the way he was. Isiah sacrificed so much to get big name offseason castoffs from the Bulls and who ended up being better by not blowing the budget on guys like Curry and Crawford? Who ended up benefiting by just taking the series of picks that could contribute right away (Gordon/Deng/Hinrich) and had good upside? Now we may not be so lucky because we chose the wrong years to make a playoff push (especially when Mullin had almost nothing in '04, he tried to force playoff contention by re-signing lots of "good" role players like Dfish/Najera who didn't do jack for us in setting the tone in anything).

Another reason why I don't want Harrington is the same reason most people feel about him is that he's a one-dimensional tweener and it would be a waste if we miss the playoffs yet again and we're stuck with his lengthy and overpaid deal that is harder to get rid of than Murphy. Then there's also the fact that what he does takes away the roles of other positions like power forward and he takes away touches from the perimeter while failing to be the passer that our type of small forward should be since Jrich is not a true shooting guard. What if we do bad enough to land another lottery and there's several 2007 prospects like Kevin Durant, Thadeus Young, Julian Wright, and some other decent scoring/athletic swings that fit our future team better? Why blow a budget, when we badly need to get back on track? Because if we don't, we lose our young guys because the owner has to worry about team budget and then the luxury tax on top of that budget which is placed on teams who mismanage their money. One season we could just be having a fire sale to get rid of any ugly contract which means Jrich and whoever could be used to remove bad contracts.

If Mullin's approach is to purposely sabotage the Warriors for the next 5 years it's definitely working if he can't find suitable trades for our budget. I've never thought Mullin could do worse than St. Jean and St. Jean had to undo the messes of guys who think like Mullin in terms of unpreparedness, lack of vision, and not seeing two steps ahead (Twardzick). Just goes to show that these knuckleheads in the Warriors organization have got to get somebody that not only understands the draft, but how the salary cap works. This ain't like in baseball where franchises don't have to worry about an artificial budget restriction.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well the only thing about that is Indiana most likely wouldn't want to touch 'ol boy Dunleavy. That's whay people are talking about the Murphy for Harrington trade, because that appears to be what was/is on the table.

As far as Murphy being more productive than Harrington, I don't get it? Murph averaged 3.1 more rebounds per game, but Harrington averaged 4.6 points per game. The other number average out (efficiency about the same with Murphy slightly better, Al had a better FG% but Murph a better 3pt%, Al had more assists but also more turnovers, more steals but worse FT%, etc)

Basically if anything these two players are a wash. I don't really like Harrington that much to be honest. However, I'm not on Murphy's fan-wagon either.

Harrington is an unimpressive tweener who scored at a decent clip on a bad team. But the reason why I don't mind the swap at all is because it'll mean opening up playing time for Ike. that's really the only reason, because otherwise Murphy is going to start at PF for the next 4 yeasr and Ike will be a long-term backup. Which I don't like.</div>

I couldn't agree more. Basically everything you said amounts to one line: "Harrington makes more sense on our current team than Murphy"

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">I couldn't agree more. Basically everything you said amounts to one line: "Harrington makes more sense on our current team than Murphy"</div>

I think he does make more sense only because I want to see Ike blossom into a quality starting PF. In fact, I want him to be an all-star PF!! If that happens, then the Harrington trade looks great. However, if GS gets Harrington for Murph, and Ike is somehow unable to be a quality starter while Troy becomes an all-star in Atlanta, then obviously the trade looks bad.

I think Ike can do it. That's why I am all for most trades that involve moving Murphy. He is too expensive to be a back-up, but I don't want him starting over Ike. That's because I'm hoping Ike will be a star.

I'd rather move Foyle's candy a$$. but that's pretty much out of the question. I'd also rather move Dunleavy. But I don't see that happening either. Now it may, but it'll probably involve trading a prospect.

Call me crazy but I value Monta, Beans, and Ike more than I do any player on the team besides JRich. Even then I think Monta could be much better (albeit a different type player, more like Dwayne Wade / AI). But they aren't proven players yet. They have talent, but they're not quality starters. But this is my right. I am just a fan. And personally I choose to take a chance and put my chips on those three young kids. I just like watching them play. Isn't it fun? Really, who the hell enjoys watching Foyle bobble passes or Murphy shoot line drive after line drive? Monta is just a blast to watch. All the more incentive for me to root for him to become a star.

So, I'm all about the prospects. This includes Ike. Therefore, I'm all about the idea of getting him more playing time. A trade for Al Harrington that either a)gives up prospects or b)doesn't make more PT for prospects is crap IMO. Trading Pietrus and Beans for Harrington is a f*uckin joke.

Now, Walker's idea of trading Dunleavy and, let's say, Zarko and McCleod, is fine by me. It makes sense. But we all know it probably wouldn't happen. However, Walker, I disagree that bringing Harrington in and keeping Dunleavy would be too crowded. I think it can work. Why? Wouldn't Dunleavy be the most expensive back-up in the NBA? Yes, but I think he'll be a good one.

You see, ruling out the possiblity that Dun gets traded, we still need a better SF. In other words, we can't trade Dunleavy, but we can't start him. There's hope, however, because I think he'll make a good, versitile back up. He can play all 5 positions at times (given the circumstances), and he can create matchup problems. If we trade Murph for Al straight up, start Al at the 3 and Ike at the 4, Dunleavy can backup both of those positions, and more to boot. He'll be a high-paid back up, sure, but he's an over-paid starter right now. And GS nees more production at the SF. Al isn't an ideal candidate, but he'll provide that production at SF in my opinion. Assuming he comes at the right price.

Now, forget all this Harrington talk. Because what the Warriors reallyneed to do is dump Foyle's candy a$$. Maybe they can fool him into thinking they have a pre-season exhibition game in Syberia and then just leave his a$$ there.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">And personally I choose to take a chance and put my chips on those three young kids. I just like watching them play. Isn't it fun? Really, who the hell enjoys watching Foyle bobble passes or Murphy shoot line drive after line drive? Monta is just a blast to watch. All the more incentive for me to root for him to become a star.</div>
I agree, I like watching those 3 plus JRich more than anyone else on the team. Take the rest and flush them, they are useless (except Baron, who is more frustrating than useless).Having Foyle, Dun, and Murph all playing together puts me right to sleep, it's everything that NBA basketball shouldn't be. Biedrins, Ike, and Monta may be rough and they do make mistakes, but I always have fun watching them play. Monta with his speed, court sense, and unrelenting defense. Ike with his superior footwork, soft touch from midrange in, ability to draw fouls inside, and finish at the line. Beans with...well I don't know what he has, but he has something. Many things that Adonal "Stonehoofs" Foyle does not. Joie de vivre perhaps! These are things the Warriors have been completely lacking. If I have to watch Foyle, Murphy, and Dunleavy the majority of this year I am going to stab myself with a pen. Repeatedly. I'd rather watcher Niner football and I'm not joking.