Well there havent been any game threads here in a while but I thought I'd make one jsut to follow the game. Miami has been shooting incredible from the field. D-Wade is struggling from the floor but seems to be finding his rythm. Kapono and Williams have hit shot after shot for us and they have been huge. Also Walker and Posey have given us a big lift off of the bench.
<div class="quote_poster">TopLake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">4-11 FG and still gets 27pts, AMAZING...</div> 19-21 FT's. still amazing how much help this guy gets. That clip of him against portland where he got a foul late in the game when he just slipped proves It. still a great player none the less but still.......
Utah's shot 50 free throws to Miami's 43, just because Wade has been attacking the basket when his jump shot is off doesn't mean he's gettin every call. I haven't seen any one of those calls that weren't actual fouls with barely any contact.
Wade alone had 23 FT attempts. How the heck do you get that many attempts in a single game!!!! He scored just 30 so most of his scoring came from the line. UNREAL.
<div class="quote_poster">Playmaker15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Simple. Because he ATTACKS the basket.</div> The guy was averaging 5.1 FT attempts his rookie season and was attacking the basket like crazy, and he didn't get the kind of fouls calls he is getting now. He's doubled that amount and alot of it has to do with his SUPERSTAR status.. Everytime he goes to the basket you always expect a whistle even with just the slightest contact. Its the way the game is played. Im used to it, but it just amazes me how a guy can score 30 points and practically his entire scoring output is from FT shots.
<div class="quote_poster">Trench Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wade alone had 23 FT attempts. How the heck do you get that many attempts in a single game!!!! He scored just 30 so most of his scoring came from the line. UNREAL.</div> The refs calling anything that looks like contact for him, that helps too. It was ridiculous that they were giving him all those damn calls. They make it impossible to guard him, so he was unstoppable. Remember that commercial, fall down 7 times and get up 8? Well yesterday Harpring barely ran into him with his shoulder and it took him 5 minutes to get up, WTF is up with that?
Mmmm...before we go talking about Wade getting all the calls, there was 99 FT attempts in the game, the Jazz had 54 attempts, and the Heat had 45 attempts. The Jazz had three guys attempt more than 10 FT's in the game. The difference? Miami 42-45 FT Utah 37-54 FT Hey, Arenas had 21 attempts against the Raptors, he would just come down the court, drive at will, adjust his body and draw contact. I mean they were legit fouls, if you can get in the lane at will, more power to you.
Didn't Kobe attempt around 30 FTs when he scored 81? But it's legit when Kobe has that many ft attempts because he is god and can do no wrong and never needs help from the refs. I'm sure Wade's higher ammount of ft attempts has nothing to do with the fact that he attacks the basket twice as much as Kobe and knows how to draw contact.
When wade has 30 FTA a game, he will have 40pts. When kobe had 30 FTA, he had 81 pts....see the difference?
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't Kobe attempt around 30 FTs when he scored 81? But it's legit when Kobe has that many ft attempts because he is god and can do no wrong and never needs help from the refs. I'm sure Wade's higher ammount of ft attempts has nothing to do with the fact that he attacks the basket twice as much as Kobe and knows how to draw contact.</div> Kobe attempted 20 FT on an 81 point evening. People are upset because most of Wade's production came from the line (23 FT attempts on a 32 point evening).
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't Kobe attempt around 30 FTs when he scored 81? But it's legit when Kobe has that many ft attempts because he is god and can do no wrong and never needs help from the refs. I'm sure Wade's higher ammount of ft attempts has nothing to do with the fact that he attacks the basket twice as much as Kobe and knows how to draw contact.</div> Kobe scored 81. He was hitting from everywhere on the court. No one could stop him. Some free throws were off 3 point plays, but less than half of his of point production total were from the line. He earned 81 points. About 50 points from shooting the ball in the hoop!!! Wade on the other hand has 21 of his 32 point output from FTs. That means he only made about 5 shots the entire game. Almost 70% of his point production from the line. I dont know about others, but I think as long as Wade keeps driving he can make just 5 shots a game and still average 30ppg based ont the way the ref call fouls for him. Im not saying Wade is not a great player. He certainly is. He seems to however get to the line for tick tacky fouls all the time. I accept it as part of the game and Im not crying about it, but I am speaking out on what I see. Everytime Wade goes in for a drive, even a slight touch or minor bump seems to cause the refs to blow the whistle. The game of basketball is suppose to allow some rough play inside right??? Im not talking about tackling a player, but allowing a certain degree of contact so the defender can be a bit more aggressive... I think the refs need to allow more contact that what they are allowing when Wade drives to the hoop. Sometimes it seems like Wade can just walk to the basket because defenders cant lay a finger on him at all. And yes, Kobe, Carter, Iverson, and several others get the benefit of the calls in games too, but I've just noticed that Wade seems to be getting alot of the 'GOOD' calls go his way much more than anyone else lately.
How come everyone brings up Wade getting superstar calls, people have to throw in Kobe's name? Let's talk about Wade and not defer to Kobe. I'd be upset if I were a Miami fan because Wade's image is being dimished by the way he's officiated. He's getting unfairly criticized for the amount of times he goes to the line, and it's just ugly basketball when you have a player shooting 20 plus free throws in the course of a game. When I go to a game I pay money to watch the players score layups, dunks, jumpshots, I don't pay money to watch a free throw shooting contest. You even have players questioning the integrity of the sport after the officiating debacle in the NBA Finals. Don't Miami fans want better? Don't you want to be considered the undisputed champs and have the undisputed best player in the game, by letting Wade play basketball, and not get the benefit of the whistle every other possession?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I dont know about others, but I think as long as Wade keeps driving he can make just 5 shots a game and still average 30ppg based ont the way the ref call fouls for him.</div> Obviously that's not true since Wade doesn't go to the line 21 times a game... Also if anyone saw the game, calls were going like crazy. I don't know if people missed my post, but the Jazz got 54 FT attempts to the Heat's 45. There were a total of 99 FT attempts in the game, every touch was being called, Wade just had the ball in his hands more than anyone on either team. These criticisms of watching a FT contest aren't really related to Wade, but to how the league's rules have changed. Also not too many people will complain when their player is getting to the line and their team wins. You might say it was an ugly game, depending on the game, but there really won't be much complaint. When it's a player on your team, it's usually more that they were just being aggressive and that's how the rules are as opposed to ref bias. Either way, with how much Wade drives him going to the line any less than 9 times a game would be absurd, so people's complaints about him are about like 1 possible extra call a game, which is just stupid.
<div class="quote_poster">AllNet Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">19-21 FT's. still amazing how much help this guy gets. That clip of him against portland where he got a foul late in the game when he just slipped proves It. still a great player none the less but still.......</div> He was 21-23 the night before. It's just disgusting. Dwyane Wade is great, but doesn't deserve this treatment. It's not fun to watch. He ruined the finals of the best playoffs in years.
<div class="quote_poster">Chuck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He was 21-23 the night before. It's just disgusting. Dwyane Wade is great, but doesn't deserve this treatment. It's not fun to watch. He ruined the finals of the best playoffs in years.</div> Utah attempted 54 free throws in this game, so it's not like his free throw attempts were terribly skewed. And did he "ruin" the Finals, or did the refs? You can't blame him if the refs are going to give him the calls when he drives to the basket. Wade gets a lot of free throws, but he also drives to the basket more than any other SG in the league. He's SUPPOSED to be leading the league in free throw attempts, just by the way he plays. If he's getting the benefit of a lot of questionable calls, it's because he's putting himself in the position to get those calls more than any other player. Let's do a quick comparison between Wade and another player who isn't considered a "superstar" in this league, Corey Maggette. As per 82games.com: <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><br/>FGA %Non-jumpers%Fouled<br/>---------------------------<br/>Wade18.8 37% 19.7%<br/>Maggette10.4 33% 22.0%<br/>LeBron20.2 33% 15.3%<br/>Kobe19.6 26% 15.5%<br/>Iverson(phi)24.5 26% 16.8%<br/>Arenas21.9 24% 14.7%<br/></div> These numbers are interesting. First what jumps out is that Wade takes fewer jumpers than the other players. He's attacking the basket. Now, look at the %Fouled (% of field goal attempts on which he drew a foul). Wade's is much higher than the other "superstars" in the league. Clearly, it's special treatment towards the NBA darling, right? Well, wait, Corey Maggette draws fouls even more frequently, and he even takes more jumpers. Are the refs in love with Maggette as well?
yea Maggette is good at drawing fouls but most of his free throws won't decide the outcome of the game. He doesn't take most of the shots in the like last 5 min of the 4th quarter but wade does and simply decide the result......like last year NBA final
I believe what most people have an issue with is Wade averaging about 16 FT per game in the NBA Finals. And yes, if one could give the Championship back to the Kings when the Lakers got those calls in Game 6 of the WCF (assuming the Kings beat their Eastern conference foe in the Finals that year); and give the Mavericks from last year the trophy, I'd do it because I want the right team winning the title. Either way, winning Championships is completely incidental (if one's teammates suck, one is screwed), all that matters is that one plays well in the playoffs. Since that's not going to happen, I'll gladly keep that cheap Laker title (just like the Heat wear those 05-06 Rings proudly).
