heat, pacers, grizzlies, lakers all want Dampier

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Offered No. 7 at the same rate of exchange, the Pacers declined, preferring to trade Harrington for someone of immediate consequence and save cap space for next summer's free-agent crop. Erick Dampier is their top priority; I hear Jermaine O'Neal is recruiting him heavily. Many teams figure to join the chase when the Warriors center opts out of his remaining two-year, $16.9M pact within the next few days despite a four-year extension offer (121/2 percent yearly hikes) from Golden State.

As mentioned previously in this space, the Lakers will be all over Dampier should Shaq be shorn. The Heat also are prepared to make a proposal: Brian Grant and Caron Butler. But the Grizzlies feel they're solidly positioned to obtain Dampier's dominant shot blocking/defensive rebounding services because they have someone (Shane Battier? James Posey?) Chris Mullin loves.
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They say that the heat are willing to propose caron butler and brian grant for dampier and the pacers would put harrington in a package for damp, and the grizzlies would put battier or posey in a trade. I really like the Heats proposal, if in fact it is true. Caron Butler is developing into a superstar and brain grant is a great hustle player although he would be undersized in the West.

 

Brian Grant??? are they nuts? You know how much that guy gets paid? And it doesn't come off the books in the year we're trying to look at here. I'll take Caron Butler though, who knows he could be a star someday.

 

Yea, I couldn't believe it when I saw what Grant is being paid. He is due to get 43 mil in the next 3 years. Definately not worth that kind of money.

 

Brian Grant was probably paid the year before they didn't have the luxury tax for going over the cap. He's a good player, but he's way overpaid and I bet no team in their right mind would take him.

 

How about Dampier for Scot Pollard + cash at least.

 

I like the Dampier for Battier trade, not sure about the salary cap particulars to know if it can be made an even trade but I would love to obtain him if Damp gotta go.

 

Maybe they can re-sign someone like Tsakalidas for short contract to even things out. I mean the negative side is he would probably be making more money than he should, but it would allow Battier to come on down to join fellow dukie Dunleavy jr.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">How about Dampier for Scot Pollard + cash at least.</div>
hahahahahah are you mad! that sounds good to me, but this is real life!
Scot pollard for Dampier will never happen unless the GS Gm is on drugs or something!
But anyways it's a hell good for Pacers and not for GS!

 

Well obviously its not the best trade scenario, but its something and something is better than nothing when you have a free agent that can walk away for nothing in return. And at least Pollard is one of those defensive guys that'll make it hard as he can for the other guy to score. Think about it this way, with all the Shaq rumors and Shaq desperately wants out, he may end up getting traded for peanuts. But its better to get something for him if it can help the team land a player that contribute in some way where it doesn't disrupt the rest of the core units. I wouldn't take Harrington that's for sure.

BTW here would be my catch to the Larry Bird, He has to take on Eschmeyer's contract as well. So therefore we get Damp, we get a center. We get rid of a long, but small contract. Probably wouldn't work salary cap wise, but do you know of any starting defensive center a team would be willing to give up that's in equal size to Dampier? The team to trade with has to be in the East Coast Conference because we don't want him competing against us during the regular season more than a couple times.

 

What are you smokin? Pollard over Harrington!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BronxTeeRex:</div><div class="quote_post">What are you smokin? Pollard over Harrington!</div>We got no freakin' use for Harrington who hogs the ball, wants to be a starter and will probably be deteriminal to future plans if his contract is too long and too much to make a run at the free agent market in the year we're looking at. Now if we're doing a 3 way trade that ensures we dump Harrington and get some else better than Pollard at center position then its a trade to consider. That's just my opinion. You seem to know nothing about the warriors team chemistry anyway or what the future plan is and our only looking an individual players that won't necessarily make a team better. And first of all, Do I know you? I don't like your tone. I suggest you start being more respectful to any discussion made whether it may seem farfetched or ridiculous to you when you're on another team's forum.

 

I don't know any GS fans, so NO I don't know you.
Yes GS need harrington, he's better than any SF on their roster including your favorite Cardinal.
no i don't know anything about their chemistry, but I guess it's crazy if your representing it.....NO offense just my way of speakin.

 

Cardinal's a power forward. Don't let the SF thing fool you, he almost always plays power forward. And no I don't necessarily consider Harrington better than any of the small forwards because you said so. I like the way Harrington fights for the ball and mixes it up on offense and the fact he could be a great locker room presence but what contract length and how much would Harrington get signed for and who would have to sit to accomodate him? Now if there's a third team that wants him and we get a good small forward like Shane Battier who is willing to come off the bench, but is good enough to start I'm down for it. Also if Harrington deson't mind coming off the bench I'm down for that as well.

And no I don't represent the team's chemistry, not like the way you represent children who are way below their ritalin requirement. Talk real basketball and tell me why I'm wrong? Are you lazy? Tell me why Harrington is needed. Give me examples. Tell me game situations where he could be valuable on a warrior squad built around Jrich and Dunleavy (for the moment) Talk basketball and leave out the punk remarks because you'll get no respect on any forum. Now if you want to talk basketball I'm listening, if you want to try to ridicule me, private message me. Don't take it here.

 

I really don't know if there is a deal out there that would be a better alternative than just letting Dampier go and just using the cap space left from him leaving. There aren't really many players that we could legitamently trade Dampier for to get a do-able big man down low. The Warriors could just use the cap space to bring in some center like Okur, I think Keon Clark is a FA, Elden Campbell, etc. if it's for the right price along with signing a decent guard or 3 like Flip Murray or Brent Barry or the likes, along with possibly resigning Foyle and Cardinal. I think that would probably be the better way to go for the Warriors, unless they can put together a deal that I just don't see at this moment.

 

I guess the only other option is to sign some nbdl guy or a old free agent center then if the warriors are going cheap. But I figure if Damp has a high trade value and we want at least something for him, why not get defensive center that we know will come off the books in the targeted year. Stupid greedy Dampier. This is all his fault.

 

I would definitely agree with Clif. If we do a sign-and-trade, that will pretty much eat all of the cap space, and we'd be left with only the mid-level exception. As there are very few good C's available for trade, and a bunch of servicable big men out in the FA market, I'd consider trying out the FA market first. The only other option would be to get a player for Damp, then somehow angle a package of current players for a good C, which would likely end up in the other team's favor. (I mean, who would we go after? Oft-injured Ilgauskaus? Disgruntled vet Dale Davis? Young, undersized Stromile Swift? I'd rather take a chance on someone like current Warrior Foyle, Keon Clark, hustler Etan Thomas, or a lane filler like Greg Ostrag, Micheal Doleac, or numbers-hog Mark Blount, or heck, I'd even roll the dice with untested young guys. Except for maybe Blount, the mid-level should be a good enough offer for some of these guys.)

 

So you say just let him walk? The warriors seem to be doing a lot of that.

 

Out of all the proposals, the possibility offered by the Grizz seems the best, otherwise unless we could re-sign him flat out, I would let him walk. (I think highly of the Grizz's roster, either Posey, Battier, or nearly anyone would make a good deal. They are a team of young veterans who are used to playing in a large rotation and thus would be more accepting of a 6th man role, or a starter's role with fewer minutes.) If that happened, I'd try signing cheapo young FA's Mikki Moore or Loren Woods, or something.

 

Mikkie Moore might be decent I guess.