Hollingers power rankings has us 4th

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  1. ucatchtrout

    ucatchtrout Well-Known Member

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    Jeff Sagarin's ratings also ranks the Blazers 4th.

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    Wow. He has us higher than the Magic, who are 12-4. That's just crazy, ain't it?
     
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    Not really. Seeing as the Magic have had a home-heavy schedule with an SOS (strength of schedule) of .407 while Portland has had a road heavy schedule with a SOS of .543, it seems logical that they are ranked higher in Hollinger's ranks.
     
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    And we did beat Orlando in Orlando if that is factored in at this early stage.
     
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    We've played the leagues toughest schedule so far and done pretty well. After this five game road trip is where it gets interesting, because 8 out of the next 11 games will be at home, where we are so far unbeaten.
     
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    8 out of 11 at home sounds good. As much as I would like to remain perfect at home, the chances of that are pretty remote. laws of nature would say that we have to lose at home sometime. But we should be able to come out of the home stand easily 6-2 or even 7-1. Granted if we got 8-0 I wouldn't complain about it at all!
     
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    what's even more amazing is that we've been 4th for 6 days now and this is at least the 3rd thread pointing it out.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    What's even more crazy is DaRizzle PM'd me and claimed that the clock doesn't stop when a foul is called.
     
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    ^oh WTF!!!! Im just reading some thread and then out of the blue...
     
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    To bad we don't catch the knick on the second night of a back to back like Cleveland does. On Wednesday the Cavs should mop them up after we're through with them on Tuesday. Keep winning and good things happen, a loss and we fall a couple of spaces. Crazy thought that we're though so highly off huh? :crazy:
     
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    It's all well and good I suppose, but it's a well documented fact that playoff quality teams don't start playing their best basketball until the second half of the season, so I take this ranking with a fat grain of salt.

    I didn't put a whole lot of stock in Hollinger's rankings when the Blazers were habitually underestimated last year, and I won't put a whole lot of faith in it now that the Blazers are overrated.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Geez, you people insult Hollinger when his ratings don't favor us, but now that they do, you flaunt it. What's up with that?
     
  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    This is why you need to look at more than just stats when making these rankings. As great as the Blazers are playing, there is no way any sane person puts them ahead of the Celtics right now.

    Record:
    Celtics 16 - 2
    Blazers 12 -6

    Margin:
    Celtics +8.11
    Blazers +5.39

    Record Last 10:
    Celtics 9-1
    Blazers 7-3

    SOS Last 10
    Celtics 0.490
    Blazers 0.457

    Streak:
    Celtics Won 8
    Blazers Won 4

    The Blazers have played a tougher overall schedule (SOS = 0.533 vs. 0.502), and thanks to a couple recent blow outs, have a better margin in the last 10 games (11.30 vs. 9.30), but they have lost 4 more games than the Celtics and have lost more times in the last 10 games than the Celtics have all season.

    And, it's not just about who has been hot lately. The Celtics have played a tougher schedule over the last 10 games, and have a better record over that span. So, the Celtics are better for the season, and better over the last 10 games. Yet, Hollinger's system has the Blazers ranked higher.

    Any system that places a 12-6 team that's 7-3 in their last 10 games above a 16-2 team that's 9-1 over the last 10 games, is highly flawed.

    BNM
     
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    Todays rankings show we've been moved up to 3rd.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Hollinger also has the 8 - 8 Mavericks (Last 10 games: 6 - 4) ranked two spots higher than the 12-6 Nuggets (Last 10 games: 8 - 2) even though SOS and Margin are very similar for both teams.

    BNM
     
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    you people? bwhahahahahahaha:biglaugh:
     

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