After the Lakers lost to the suns and got eliminated from playoff contention, Lakers general mitch kuptchak has reportedly told lakers owner Jerry Buss that he has talked to the INDIANA PACERS about trading (PF) Jermaine O'neal, (SF) Ron Artest for LAKERS (F) Lamar Odom, (PF) Brian Grant and (SF) Luke Walton. When asked how is it possible to trade luke walton when he is a free agent, he said we will resign him and trade him. Luke Walton has reportedly told the Los Angeles Lakers he will not sign with them. Also, the lakers will trade everyones favorite (PG) Chuky Atkins and Stanislav Madvadenko to the Boston Celtics for (PG) Marcus Banks and two future first round draft picks. However the Indiana Pacers have responded by saying that if they dont do any damage in the playoffs, they will look to rebuild now that the legendary Reggie Miller has retired and Ron Artest causing too much comotion and Jermaine O'Neal is having a surgery in the summer. They said they were more than happy to accept the offer.
You have a source for any of these rumors? I can see the Boston trade materializing, but the Indiana deal is a complete ripoff for the Pacers. Jermaine O'neal is a better piece to build around than Odom. I don't think the Pacers are desperate enough to deal him, just to get rid of Artest either. I have to imagine the Pacers can get a much better deal for Jermaine O'neal. But if it goes down, I'll be jumping for joy.
No offense if you made those up, but those are one of the more stupider trades I've seen in a while. (Indiana) The Boston one isn't that bright either.
I don't think that these rumours are true but if they are, I don't really like them. I would like to see Lamar Odom stay with the Lakers. If we could get either Jermaine or Ron onto our team without trading Lamar, we would be going into the right direction. On my ESPN 2K5 game, I somehow managed to get Ben Wallace onto my team. I ended up trading him straight away with other players and ended up getting KG and two first round draft picks. My team stands as this now: PG-Deaven George SF-Lamar Odom PF-Kevin Garnett SG-Kobe Bryant C-Somebody I drafted onto my team. I know it is only a game, but the defence on my team is SOLID. Imagine having Lamar, Jermaine and Kobe in your defence? The two forwards together are almost an unbeatable pair. I would love to keep Lamar and bring in another good forward.
How about Kidd to the Lakers? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And so now we come to Jason Kidd. Look for Kidd to start demanding his way out of New Jersey. He has done everything but that for most of the season with his tepid support for the Nets. This from a guy who had the chance to go to the Spurs but rejected it when the Nets came up with more than $100 million through 2008-09. Of course, the Nets had to take on Alonzo Mourning for $22 million without a physical at Kidd's urging. Mourning complained his way out of New Jersey and is with Miami and a chance for a championship this season. Will Kevin Garnett be next? He is having physical problems and will be entering his 10th season. The Timberwolves are a mess, and many believe general manager/coach Kevin McHale will leave the organization. How about Allen Iverson, 30 next season, with the 76ers' second-tier situation and a coach he doesn't care for in Jim O'Brien? As for Kidd, the Nets might like to accommodate him as well. One interesting scenario involves the Lakers. With the Lakers about to be eliminated from the playoffs for the first time since 1994 this week, they need someone to get the ball out of Kobe Bryant's hands. Only an All-Star will do. They talked patience and free agents after trading Shaquille O'Neal last summer, but that should disappear after a losing season and Bryant impatient for the club to improve. Lamar Odom never fit with Bryant because he defers too much and needs the ball in his hands more. He might work with New Jersey's Carter and Richard Jefferson, is from the East and fared best when he was with Miami last season, and is younger and cheaper.</div> Source
If we could get Kidd and Ron, this team would have championship hopes. Kidd would be ideal. The 10 points, 10 Rebs and 10 Ass would help.
No chance. Odom, Walton and Grant for Artest and O'neil would make Indiana twice as stupid as LA was for trading Shaq. Reported by who? Kupcake after a wet dream?
As much as I love the idea of Jason Kidd in a Laker uniform, his contract scares me. After this year the Lakers would have to absorb... $16.4M in 2005/06 $18.0M in 2006/07 $19.7M in 2007/08 $21.4M in 2008/09 That's just too, steep a price to acquire Kidd. Right now the Nets are struggling to make the playoffs in the East with Kidd & Carter leading the charge. I'd argue the Nets have a more talented roster than the Lakers up and down as well. If the Lakers could dump Grant in the deal as well, I'd be more open to it, but the Lakers can get a much better deal for Odom, than an aging, expensive Jason Kidd.
why Why would Indiana trade thier two premier players for Odom, grant (and his contract) and Walton. This would be the worst trade since......well the other O'Neal was traded for 2 of those 3
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">I hate Grants contract. Can I ask why his contract has a huge payout?</div> At the time Grant was a free agent, the salary cap rules were different, and there was no luxury tax. Players like Grant, Houston, KG, Shaq, and a lot of the other overpaid players cashed in on big deals. Also for any deal involving Odom, I think he has a trade kicker in his contract. I'll have to double check that, but if it's true he'll be even harder to move. It was a snag in the Shaq deal. EDIT-- Here it is... Lamar's contract has a "trade kicker" in it, which adds about 15% of the $55 million left on his contract throughout the next 5-years. That adds about $8.3 million onto his contract, and from what a few insiders have said it has to be frontloaded onto his current deal.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">At the time Grant was a free agent, the salary cap rules were different, and there was no luxury tax. Players like Grant, Houston, KG, Shaq, and a lot of the other overpaid players cashed in on big deals. Also for any deal involving Odom, I think he has a trade kicker in his contract. I'll have to double check that, but if it's true he'll be even harder to move.</div> There are two ways to look at the Odom trade kicker contact. One way is to be glad and hope the Lakers aquire another forward or point guard that is good. Examples of rumours are Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal and Jason Kidd. Another way to look at this is to be upset because it will be hard to get other good players without trading someone like Odom, seeing as he is our second best player. Hopefully, some other team makes the same mistake that we made with Shaq and give us a good player for a few worthless Laker players. After this happens, people on some other team board would be complaining about how their GM is stupid by allowing a good player leave for basically nothing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">There are two ways to look at the Odom trade kicker contact. One way is to be glad and hope the Lakers aquire another forward or point guard that is good. Examples of rumours are Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal and Jason Kidd. Another way to look at this is to be upset because it will be hard to get other good players without trading someone like Odom, seeing as he is our second best player. Hopefully, some other team makes the same mistake that we made with Shaq and give us a good player for a few worthless Laker players. After this happens, people on some other team board would be complaining about how their GM is stupid by allowing a good player leave for basically nothing.</div> Haha, too bad Cleveland's Paxson won't be around for much longer. Where is Scott Layden these days?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Haha, too bad Cleveland's Paxson won't be around for much longer. Where is Scott Layden these days?</div> I saw him on NBA TV the other night as an analyst. As for the GMs of the league, don't be discouraged at Paxson's upcoming departure, as there is someone to carry on the tradition by the name of Rob Babcock. He wound up trading Vince Carter for two scrubs and a cupcake. If the Lakers enquire about a deal, you might get Donyell Marshall for a Honda Civic. Great deal right there.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tempted 2 Touch:</div><div class="quote_post">After the Lakers lost to the suns and got eliminated from playoff contention, Lakers general mitch kuptchak has reportedly told lakers owner Jerry Buss that he has talked to the INDIANA PACERS about trading (PF) Jermaine O'neal, (SF) Ron Artest for LAKERS (F) Lamar Odom, (PF) Brian Grant and (SF) Luke Walton. When asked how is it possible to trade luke walton when he is a free agent, he said we will resign him and trade him. Luke Walton has reportedly told the Los Angeles Lakers he will not sign with them. Also, the lakers will trade everyones favorite (PG) Chuky Atkins and Stanislav Madvadenko to the Boston Celtics for (PG) Marcus Banks and two future first round draft picks. However the Indiana Pacers have responded by saying that if they dont do any damage in the playoffs, they will look to rebuild now that the legendary Reggie Miller has retired and Ron Artest causing too much comotion and Jermaine O'Neal is having a surgery in the summer. They said they were more than happy to accept the offer.</div> now think about this for a second, why would indiana do this? does it even make sense? i mean, you're trading a decent player in odom, an old overpaid player in grant, and an average player in walton, while, in return, getting two young allstars. that just doesn't make sense. i mean, just think about it. where did you even hear about this? i want to see a link, because i think that this is just some made up bs.
My opinion on Lakers offseason moves, 3 Moves away from returning to The Playoffs, here they are... MOVE 1: LA Trades: F Caron Butler, G Chucky Atkins, F Devean George, 1st Round Round Pick Jazz Trade: F Carlos Boozer & G Raja Bell (Jazz want to move Boozer, would get 3 solid role players and could move Andrei Kirilenko back to Power Foward with the addition of Caron Butler. Would also receive two 2nd Round Picks to make additional moves or add depth to their roster.) MOVE 2: The Lakers Trade: F/C Brian Grant, C Vlade Divac, 1st Round Pick The Mavs Trade: G Darrell Armstrong, F Keith Van Horn (Dallas attempted to aquire Vlade Divac over the summer, although unsuccessful they still need to address their issues on their frontline. Dampier hasn't performed to potential and the addition of Divac and Brian Grant could help Dallas increase their size and rebounding. Dallas can go without Armstrong, their already deep at that postion with Daniels, Terry, and Harris. Keith Van Horn was a mid-season addition, but Stackhouse could more than fill that starting role. Dallas would also aquire a future 1st round pick to manuever with.) MOVE 3: The Lakers Trade: F Lamar Odom, F/C Brian Cook, F/C Slava Medvedenko The Kings Trade: G Bobby Jackson, C Brian Skinner, C Greg Ostertag (Bobby Jackson wants money, Bobby Jackson wants a starting postion to showcase his abilities. Sacramento can't give him either and with Jackson entering the last year of his contract, he's likely to be moved. Sacramento has a void at Power Foward with Chris Webber gone, Lamar Odom would be a nice replacement, and it would be a small price to pay with Jackson already likely to leave.) Los Angeles Lakers Starting Lineup: PG: Bobby Jackson (Darrell Armstrong & Tierre Brown) SG: Kobe Bryant (Raja Bell) SF: Keith Van Horn (Luke Walton, Jumaine Jones) PF: Carlos Boozer (Brian Skinner) C: Chris Mihm (Greg Ostertag) (The Lakers would still have a 2nd round selection this season and their mid level exception to strengthen their bench.)
RON ARTEST WILL NOT BE A PACER NEXT SEASON....reguardless. I love artests defense and his heart, (plus it'll be a blow to my friend dave who is a pacers die hard). LA WILL have a superstar to add this coming offseason, no doubt about it...sit back and watch, its gonna be good..cause it can only get better!
Definately move Odom or Butler + some of the trash for a powerforward. I wouldn't trade for Bobby Jackson unless you want a starting PG who's injured for at least half the season. I hate KVH.
