In rankopedia's ranking Best NBA player ever, LeBron is already number 10. In my eyes, the only direction he can go is up. So where do you think he will finish?
Dont know right now. He HAS to win around 4 rings to be top 3. But we're talking about a guy who came outve highschool and averaged 20, 5 and 5...thats incredible. Hes going to be a incredible player, he has serious talent to average a triple-double...but its all about the rings. If he gets 6, you might make a case that hes the greatest ever.Im not going to even believe that list, just looked at it and Melo is NOT top 25
How the hell can you honestly rank LeBron James as the 10th best player to ever play the game already? That is complete bull...He has that potential, but he isn't there already... I don't even think he's top 25 at this point, probably not even top 50.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ May 14 2007, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That is total horseshit. Duncan at 23 behind Wade, LeBron, and 'Melo? Please.</div>EXACTLYthis just proves how many lebron/wade/melo homo fanboys there are.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (junot111 @ May 14 2007, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>EXACTLYthis just proves how many lebron/wade/melo homo fanboys there are.</div>I mean seriously, I am a big fan of Wade and I started laughing my ass off when I saw that list
After tonight's game, I really don't put Lebron into the top players of all time just yet. He had 29 or 30 points on 9 of 16 shooting and that was nice. But in the fourth quarter, he missed about 4 free throws, and only scored 4 points the entire fourth quarter.In an important playoff game, in he 4th quarter when the game is close, an all-time great will find a way to get points and push his team through. Lebron James kind of dissapeared, didn't get to the rim, took a couple of bad jump shots, and missed free throws. I think he will get there some day, but not until he settles this stuff right here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ May 14 2007, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>After tonight's game, I really don't put Lebron into the top players of all time just yet. He had 29 or 30 points on 9 of 16 shooting and that was nice. But in the fourth quarter, he missed about 4 free throws, and only scored 4 points the entire fourth quarter.In an important playoff game, in he 4th quarter when the game is close, an all-time great will find a way to get points and push his team through. Lebron James kind of dissapeared, didn't get to the rim, took a couple of bad jump shots, and missed free throws. I think he will get there some day, but not until he settles this stuff right here.</div>It took you this long to see this about LeBron? In head to head matchups, in the 4th quarter, he has been greatly outplayed and beaten by Wade, Dirk, Kobe, and Carmelo. He always misses clutch FT's, and in the clutch looks in the other direction when someone wants the ball in his hands.As for the list, it's stupid. I MIGHT put Wade in top 25-30 all time, but LeBron, and especially Melo, are nowhere close.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 14 2007, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It took you this long to see this about LeBron? In head to head matchups, in the 4th quarter, he has been greatly outplayed and beaten by Wade, Dirk, Kobe, and Carmelo. He always misses clutch FT's, and in the clutch looks in the other direction when someone wants the ball in his hands.As for the list, it's stupid. I MIGHT put Wade in top 25-30 all time, but LeBron, and especially Melo, are nowhere close.</div>It didn't take me this long to see it about Lebron, I was just bringing up an isntance. He's still a better basketball player than Dwayne Wade though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ May 14 2007, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It didn't take me this long to see it about Lebron, I was just bringing up an isntance. He's still a better basketball player than Dwayne Wade though.</div>I disagree. Give me Wade's scoring ability, playmaking ability, defense, and killer inctinct/clutch ability anyday over Bron. Bron has more raw skill than Wade, but that means little to me when you take everything into account (same with TD/KG arguement).
Hes still so young. This would be his senior year in college wouldnt it?I watched the game also, but thats been the story of his free throws all season long, for some reason his season his free throws havent been good at all. Hes not top 10 right now, but he will be. Hes top 50 though.
Lebron James is just as good of a scorer, is just as good of a passer, and a better rebounder. Lebron James has a better jumper, can get to the rim, pretty much averages the same amount of points as Dwayne Wade. I will take Lebron James any day over Dwayne Wade.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 14 2007, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. Give me Wade's scoring ability, playmaking ability, defense, and killer inctinct/clutch ability anyday over Bron. Bron has more raw skill than Wade, but that means little to me when you take everything into account (same with TD/KG arguement).</div>Bron is a better passer(I swear hes a PG at heart...more athletic version of Magic) and scorer than Wade. Hes getting better every year on defense(not to mention Wade isnt what you call a lockdown defender), and Bron has the same killer instinct as Wade, if not a stronger one. Youre probably right about the clutch, but then again, Bron is alot younger AND he hasnt had the opputunities Wade has had to display them...such as the NBA Finals. Bron is the better player in my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ May 14 2007, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lebron James is just as good of a scorer, is just as good of a passer, and a better rebounder. Lebron James has a better jumper, can get to the rim, pretty much averages the same amount of points as Dwayne Wade. I will take Lebron James any day over Dwayne Wade.</div>Bron may have a better jumper, but Wade shoots the midrange 5% better than LeBron (according to Hotzones) and is the smarter scorer. Bron has better court vision, but I feel Wade is better at setting up and running the offense.And as I said before, the clutch ability and killer instinct are largely in favor of Wade. And that, more than anyhting else, is why I take Wade over Bron.
I dont think the killer instinct thing favors Wade. I think LeBron has that, if not more. Yeah Wade is probably more clutch, I mean he performed a incredible performance last year in the Finals...but Bron is still clutch. But we're going to see that just from maturity...as much as people wanna say Bron is mature beyond his years, Wade and even Melo have a sense of maturity Bron doesn't have yet...and that factors into clutchness. I would still take Bron though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 14 2007, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bron is a better passer(I swear hes a PG at heart...more athletic version of Magic) and scorer than Wade. Hes getting better every year on defense(not to mention Wade isnt what you call a lockdown defender), and Bron has the same killer instinct as Wade, if not a stronger one. Youre probably right about the clutch, but then again, Bron is alot younger AND he hasnt had the opputunities Wade has had to display them...such as the NBA Finals. Bron is the better player in my opinion.</div>I explained why I believe Wade is a better playmaker and scorer than Bron in the post above.Wade may not be a lockdown defender, but he is one of the best help defenders in the league (gets you 2SPG and 1.5BPG).Bron doesn't have the killer instinct to take over games. He is nervious in the clutch. Wade has the abilty to outscore whole teams in the 4th (he did it to Cleveland and SA within 2 weeks of each other). Bron is absolutely horrible from the FT line in the clutch, and is like 4-30 in game winning shots.We have seen more than enough of Wade taking over in both regular season and playoffs, and Bron choking in the regular season and playoffs, to make a solid decision that Wade is much more clutch than Bron.
Bron does have that killer instinct. And he doesn't get nervous, like I said above I think hes a PG at heart, and that inner player comes out in the clutch...thats why you see so many good passes by him in the late game. Wade can take over the game by scoring, but I think LeBron takes it over without people noticing it because he becomes a playmaker, but they're looking for him to score points. I just think hes more of a PG than people think.
