How Good do you think they'd be?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets' started by elevate, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. elevate

    elevate JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2007
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    If we had Yao and T-Mac including the rest of the team healthy the whole season how good do you think they'd be? I think they'd be a contender for it all, because eventually T-Mac would stop playing like a pass first superstar like he was earlier in the season when Yao was health, and we have already seen how good Yao has been doing this season. Shane Battier is a good producer and a very good defensive player. I'm from Chicago so I gotta love Luther Head. He always had a nice shot, but I see him driving to the whole alot. I think they could be up there with Dallas and San Antonio in the West if they were healthy and T-Mac played like he used to play back in Orlando.
     
  2. durvasa

    durvasa JBB Rockets Fan

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2004
    Messages:
    5,098
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I think they'd be a notch below Dallas, San Antonio, and Phoenix -- but probably at the same level as the Jazz and the Lakers. Actually, I'd favor the Rockets in a playoff series against the Jazz or Lakers, if we're healthy.
     
  3. elevate

    elevate JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2007
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Yeah, but I would say that Nuggets are above Jazz and Lakers, but below the rockets (I cant judge my nuggets till i see melo and ai together). I think Rockets may be able to take the suns tho if theyre healthy
     
  4. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2004
    Messages:
    4,456
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think they'd be a notch below Dallas, San Antonio, and Phoenix -- but probably at the same level as the Jazz and the Lakers. Actually, I'd favor the Rockets in a playoff series against the Jazz or Lakers, if we're healthy.</div>

    Rockets > Spurs....I'd be willing to bet that we could take the Spurs (who are old as crap) in 6 games if we were healthy, they're not the same team this year........if the rockets are at full strength then I don't see any real "huge" advantages any team in the west or the NBA would have over us.
     
  5. durvasa

    durvasa JBB Rockets Fan

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2004
    Messages:
    5,098
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Rockets > Spurs....I'd be willing to bet that we could take the Spurs (who are old as crap) in 6 games if we were healthy, they're not the same team this year........if the rockets are at full strength then I don't see any real "huge" advantages any team in the west or the NBA would have over us.</div>

    I disagree. Historically, the Spurs are known for slow starts but getting on a role later in the season. This year, their "slow start" is a 25-11 record while leading the league in point differential. And they're playing a wide rotation right now to conserve their big guns -- only three players are averaging more than 30 MPG, and none more than 35 MPG. Come April, that rotation will tighten up and they'll probably be one of the top 2 or 3 favorites to win it all.
     
  6. elevate

    elevate JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2007
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I think Dallas might have a slight edge cuz of their depth
     
  7. phunDamentalz

    phunDamentalz JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2005
    Messages:
    1,865
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Rockets > Spurs....I'd be willing to bet that we could take the Spurs (who are old as crap) in 6 games if we were healthy, they're not the same team this year........if the rockets are at full strength then I don't see any real "huge" advantages any team in the west or the NBA would have over us.</div>
    rockets have yet to prove they are better than Spurs man, yes they could give the west a run for their money - ANY team, but saying they're better than the Spurs at this moment is just speculation. they need to prove it.
     
  8. elevate

    elevate JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2007
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    They have yet to prove because they have never had a chance to...injuries have been haunting them since they accquired tmac wheter it be with yao or t-mac
     
  9. dakeem1

    dakeem1 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2004
    Messages:
    764
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    This is all about the "what-ifs". Every team has them, so it's not a big deal. Let's forget wat could have been (when referring to the injury woes of last season) and think about what WILL happen once Yao and Snyder comes back. Let's forget Sura.
     
  10. ROCK4LIFE

    ROCK4LIFE Active Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2005
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree. Historically, the Spurs are known for slow starts but getting on a role later in the season. This year, their "slow start" is a 25-11 record while leading the league in point differential. And they're playing a wide rotation right now to conserve their big guns -- only three players are averaging more than 30 MPG, and none more than 35 MPG. Come April, that rotation will tighten up and they'll probably be one of the top 2 or 3 favorites to win it all.</div>
    When healthy the Rockets are the best team in the league. I'm not being a homer, but it's true. Right now we're where the Lakers are. But with Yao back and Tracy distributin, we're pretty much unstoppable. To me, Battier has become the best defender in the league. Not by dirty play or flopping (like Bowen or Raja Bell) but by pure hustle and hard work. Plus it doesn't hurt he's a consistent 3pts shooter. Head has become money from 3pt also, while Skip does a great job running the offense (minus the terrible shooting some nights). Snyder brings that intensity that we desperatley need, and Bonzi can pick up the slack most nights. Truthfully, the Spurs are NOT better than the Rockets. Niether are Dallas our Phoenix............
     
  11. elevate

    elevate JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2007
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    im not quite ready to say that even tho they 1 of my 2 fav teams. i think they need to prove themselves against the competition in texas, otherwise the are best. At best, the 3 best in the league are all in texas.
     
  12. igotask8board

    igotask8board Active Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2005
    Messages:
    2,257
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    38
    At full strength, (excluding Sura) I think we can beat the Spurs, Dallas, LAL, and Jazz in the playoffs, but not Phoenix.

    They have too much firepower for us, and our defense isn't as effective when we play their game. I picked Phoenix at the start of the season to take it all and I'm sticking with them. They can accept so much failure (wasted efforts) before Nash, Amare, Marion, Diaw, Bell, Barbosa, (and newly acquired Jalen Rose) just break out in the Western Conference Finals. Amare is almost back to full strength, never thought I'd say that, and Nash seems to get better and better in the run n' gun system.
     
  13. dakeem1

    dakeem1 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2004
    Messages:
    764
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">At full strength, (excluding Sura) I think we can beat the Spurs, Dallas, LAL, and Jazz in the playoffs, but not Phoenix.

    They have too much firepower for us, and our defense isn't as effective when we play their game. I picked Phoenix at the start of the season to take it all and I'm sticking with them. They can accept so much failure (wasted efforts) before Nash, Amare, Marion, Diaw, Bell, Barbosa, (and newly acquired Jalen Rose) just break out in the Western Conference Finals. Amare is almost back to full strength, never thought I'd say that, and Nash seems to get better and better in the run n' gun system.</div>

    I'd pick Dallas to be the hardest to beat for us. There's the playoffs from 2 seasons ago, and Dallas have improved so much since then.

    So have we... But If we don't win it, then I think Dallas will.. hehehhe. Because I always think we're gonna win it hahaha
     
  14. ROCK4LIFE

    ROCK4LIFE Active Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2005
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Right now, we're an 8th seed. Without everybody we're one of the best teams. Without Bonzi, we stand no chance in 7 game series against Dallas, San Antonio, or Phoenix. Some of you have got a little ahead of urself's. I pray that JVG understands that he SHOULD play Bonzi.
     
  15. Trip

    Trip 2000000000000000000000000

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,773
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    London/Mississauga, ON
    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Right now, we're an 8th seed. Without everybody we're one of the best teams. Without Bonzi, we stand no chance in 7 game series against Dallas, San Antonio, or Phoenix. Some of you have got a little ahead of urself's. I pray that JVG understands that he SHOULD play Bonzi.</div>
    Why isn't Bonzi playing?

    Last I heard, he was out with an injury. Why is it JVG's fault?
     
  16. AznxBaller

    AznxBaller JBB Back...

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,530
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">Right now, we're an 8th seed. Without everybody we're one of the best teams. Without Bonzi, we stand no chance in 7 game series against Dallas, San Antonio, or Phoenix. Some of you have got a little ahead of urself's. I pray that JVG understands that he SHOULD play Bonzi.</div>
    Actually, we're a fifth seed. And this is considering we haven't had Yao or McGrady for several weeks due to injuries.
     
  17. DaRocket

    DaRocket JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2004
    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    With our team healthy we have one limit only: this limit is called Jeff Van Gundy (ok, let's call this a provocation).
     
  18. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2005
    Messages:
    2,810
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    With Yao and Tmac healthy we could easily be the top 4 teams in the Western Conference with Dallas, Spurs, Suns. Yao and Mac is easily one of the best combos in the entire league and plus we have Howard, Battier, Alston who are able to produce big numbers sometimes. I really think we have a better than we did 2 years ago even though McGrady has the back problems because we have a younger team now. We now have a MVP caliber Yao Ming with an improving Tmac. We have good, young guys who are able to help like Head, Hayes, Lucas. If Tmac can keep is scoring average at 25 or above that with Yao Ming getting his 25, man Rockets have a great chance at the title. GO ROCKETS!
     
  19. ROCK4LIFE

    ROCK4LIFE Active Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2005
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, we're a fifth seed. And this is considering we haven't had Yao or McGrady for several weeks due to injuries.</div>
    It was a estimate on where we're at talent wise with Yao, Snyder & Bonzi injured. We're not gonna keep that 5th seed if Yao or Bonzi don't touch the court. That statement completley went over ur head (which i'm not suprised[​IMG])
     
  20. AznxBaller

    AznxBaller JBB Back...

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,530
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It was a estimate on where we're at talent wise with Yao, Snyder & Bonzi injured. We're not gonna keep that 5th seed if Yao or Bonzi don't touch the court. </div>
    So its another subjective point. Yao's probably going to be getting some burn actually. Supposedly he'll be back sometime after All Star break.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">That statement completley went over ur head (which i'm not suprised)</div>
    If only because you overexaggerate everything.
     

Share This Page