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PtldPlatypus said:
The mediocrity level to which this thread pertains, however, is single-season rather than multi-season. How, precisely, would you define mediocrity for a team in a single-season?
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lol.....70% of the teams are mediocre at best. 20% deem contenders, 10% lottery laggards..... +- 1%
 
I'd guess we don't make the playoffs for 4 years.
 
Strenuus said:
Playoffs third year make noise 4th year.

And I'm fine waiting as long as we're improving. No reason to get bent out of shape when we know we're not good. What wasted energy lol.
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That seems incredibly optimistic, but I hope you're right!

Agree with you on getting bent out of shape. I haven't been up in arms about this team failing for over 20 years because we haven't had a roster worthy of contending in that time.
 
Tince said:
That seems incredibly optimistic, but I hope you're right!

Agree with you on getting bent out of shape. I haven't been up in arms about this team failing for over 20 years because we haven't had a roster worthy of contending in that time.
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Couple of those jail blazer teams had moments.

And yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic. Too many variables to really know and am by no means buoyed to those years. Has a hell of a chance of being longer.
 
Strenuus said:
Playoffs third year make noise 4th year.

And I'm fine waiting as long as we're improving. No reason to get bent out of shape when we know we're not good. What wasted energy lol.
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I’m hoping playoffs in Shae’s 4th year, make noise Scoot’s 4th year. I’ve loved every moment of getting to see this team develop this season, more than most moments in the post Aldridge era. I love that there are multiple guys (Camara, Walker, Mays, Thybulle if we can’t get a good return) that we can already pencil in as positive contributors to a contending bench in a few seasons, if not sooner. We’ve lacked so much bench depth forever, and we might’ve already found another Andre Miller-esque PG(!!) to have off the bench for several years??

2 more years of losing, 2 more high lotto talents added to this roster. Grant, Brogdon, and maybe even Ant will bring in a young forward or two to grow with this squad for the next couple seasons. Maybe a few things go our way, like the Warriors pick turning into a 10-12th pick, or a team like the Hornets are willing to trade their mid lotto pick for Ant, or we win the lotto in ‘25. I’ll give it one more year of losing after this season, and I think we are good enough to make a play-in/off run.

Scoot/*/Mays
Shae/Thybulle/*/Rupert
‘24 POR/Camara/Walker/Kris
*/*/Camara/Walker/Kris
DA/‘24 GSW/Williams

* is anyone who could come back from trading Grant, Brogdon, or Ant. A stroke of luck like being able to draft both Sarr AND Buzelis next summer, or drafting either of those guys and winning the ‘25 lotto to draft Cooper Flagg, or having a team offering up a promising forward (like Amen…) for some of our vets, and I think we are challenging the Spurs for the next decade.


Tince said:
That seems incredibly optimistic, but I hope you're right!

Agree with you on getting bent out of shape. I haven't been up in arms about this team failing for over 20 years because we haven't had a roster worthy of contending in that time.
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Glad to hear you say this. I am always annoyed with short-sightedness.

My co-workers were talking earlier this year about growing up when the Blazers were good. One was 34, and he grew up kinda around the Blazers (seeing Sabonis at friend’s birthday parties and whatnot) and talked about multiple viewing parties a week as a kid. Another was 41, and she was talking about how Blazermania consumed Portland, and even if you didn’t like Basketball, Drexler’s pictures were just all up in your face. Sounded like a good time to be alive in Portland, and I’m jealous that I haven’t gotten to experience that feeling yet.

Hopefully soon.
 
BankTeller said:
Glad to hear you say this. I am always annoyed with short-sightedness.

My co-workers were talking earlier this year about growing up when the Blazers were good. One was 34, and he grew up kinda around the Blazers (seeing Sabonis at friend’s birthday parties and whatnot) and talked about multiple viewing parties a week as a kid. Another was 41, and she was talking about how Blazermania consumed Portland, and even if you didn’t like Basketball, Drexler’s pictures were just all up in your face. Sounded like a good time to be alive in Portland, and I’m jealous that I haven’t gotten to experience that feeling yet.

Hopefully soon.
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Can confirm! My avatar was the first Blazer poster I ever had. Everyone I knew had a Blazer poster, even adults. Blazermania was something else!
 
Hoopguru said:
Last years #10 teams were Thunder & Bulls @ 40 win seasons.
I guess thats why there is now a play in and in season tourney so that fans can still get excited about mediocre teams. I thought The RCT congregation didn't want anything to do with mediocre teams? Its contender or nothing?
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I would imagine that most fans expect a stop at mediocrity before greatness, if in fact we make it to either.
 
Tince said:
Can confirm! My avatar was the first Blazer poster I ever had. Everyone I knew had a Blazer poster, even adults. Blazermania was something else!
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I wasn't even a huge blazer fan as a kid (hockey and baseball for me) and I still had a poster and the DQ glasses.

They were ubiquitous for whatever friends' house you went to. It was odd if you went to a friends house and their parents DIDNT get them the DQ glasses
 
I can't believe there were so many answers and no one answered 0.

The blazers are already going to be mediocre at best

Duh
 
Play-in is typically sub .500 mediocrity. 2 or 3 lucky bad teams are now considered playoff teams/winning franchises. Though not actual playoff teams, as play-in squads keep all the benefits of a non-playoff team. Lottery, trade protections. I believe team like Portland could make the play-in, and not have to cough up their 1st round pick to Chicago as long as they lose.
 
I’d say anything below the 4/5th seed is mediocre

6-8 contenders / pretenders that could compete if EVERYTHING went right

10 or so teams that are bad / awful / not good and generally probably can’t win on any given night

Which leaves about 12-14 teams that are pretty much mediocre. Not good. Not bad.

And of those there are probably 1 or 2 that are a young up and coming team that needs more experience.

so with all that said, I’d say 4-5 years.
 
Depends on Scoot and the next draft. We hit on those then less than 3 years. We miss and it'll be 6+ years.

Sharpe is the real deal. With Ayton Grant Camara Walker we have some vets and role players. Ant is a good starter or better.

Not sure if Scoot will be a star, average starter, bench player, or bust. Wouldnt be shocked to see him be any of those.

If he or our next pick are stars we will be a solid playoff team in a couple years. We'll be a contender eventually if they both are stars.

If those are misses it'll be a long painful rebuild and probably eventually lead to grumblings about Sharpes future long term.
 
Maybe we should wait for players to be healthy before we decide how long they'll suck.

They're having players with no business getting minutes, getting minutes.

Id say they're 2 years from 40+ wins (so after 2025 season) and after that 50+.

Barring weird injuries or a player pulling a Damian and demanding out.
 
CB ain't the one to get this team to mediocrity. Not a chance.
 
50+ wins has always been considered a good season. A team that wins 50 games or more always has a chance in the playoffs to win it all.
IMO 50+ wins is better than mediocre.
Mediocre to me is 40-44 wins and fringe playoff. To that point this team is nowhere close to mediocre and might be 2-3 years from that still.
 
I think it depends on how long the fascination with draft picks lasts. As long as personnel moves are primarily based around getting draft picks instead of adding players who are ready to contribute, the team will remain on a losing track. I’m not saying that living for picks is the wrong play for the next year or so, but it isn’t until the switch is made to trying to add winning talent that actual winning will happen. Young players don’t win without quality experienced players beside them.
 
e_blazer said:
I think it depends on how long the fascination with draft picks lasts. As long as personnel moves are primarily based around getting draft picks instead of adding players who are ready to contribute, the team will remain on a losing track. I’m not saying that living for picks is the wrong play for the next year or so, but it isn’t until the switch is made to trying to add winning talent that actual winning will happen. Young players don’t win without quality experienced players beside them.
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And young players don’t become quality experienced players without quality experienced players around them.
This is why tanking breeds a losing mentality and a losing culture.
 
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