How nuts is this?

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1153/nate-robinson

    The Bulls could cut Nate Robinson before his contract becomes guaranteed for the season, according to beat writer K.C. Johnson.

    Robinson had 18 points (five triples) in just 22 minutes against the Celtics on Tuesday, but with the progression of Marquis Teague, Robinson's roster spot could be in jeopardy. The team can waive Robinson without penalty at any point before his deal becomes guaranteed on January 10. Dec 19 - 8:08 AM
     
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    Is there any word that the Bulls are actually thinking about doing this?

    This move would be so dumb it's not even worth talking about.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    KC Johnson quoted there.
     
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    The quote from KC says that the possibility of doing so was always on their minds, since they signed him to the contract they did. Nothing was said about it being imminent.

    But I suppose you could ask, "Why did KC bring this up?"

    Fair question.

    There is a sense in which, once Derrick comes back, Nate will be superfluous. But that's asking a lot of Teague, and Nate's salary doesn't seem to be relevant either way to the tax issue.

    But that's reading between the lines. What KC said is that the possibility of cutting Nate exists, and that doing so was predicated on whether Teague was going to be ready to perform. He's a lot closer than we (you, Denny) thought about two weeks ago. But nothing said about it being a done deal.
     
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    This is a quote:

    The Bulls signed the veteran guard to a deal that doesn't become fully guaranteed until Jan. 10. That means they can waive Robinson with no penalty any time before that date, an option that always has been under consideration internally.

    Teague's development, not to mention Derrick Rose's expected return, could make Robinson expendable.
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    I still say it's nuts to even consider it.

    The guy may well be our 2nd best guard when Rose comes back. Good guy to have off the bench to play 36 minutes to spell Rose and Kirk. He's cheap, too.
     
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    This is really strange even to consider waiving Robinson. Teague has played some good minutes, but I don't think he' ready enough...

    Please don't waive Robinson
     
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    ESPN reporting about Jan. 1

    What is right Jan 1 or Jan 10?

     
  9. NOVoodoo

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    Honestly, I'm surprised Robinson is even on a partially-guaranteed contract as it is. I can't wrap my mind around why he's been such a floater these past few seasons despite his offensive productivity. He's seemingly a tenuous figure on most teams as of late, despite being better than several other players on their bench.
     
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    It's Jan. 10th, Bullsger.

    I don't know why Nate hasn't stuck anywhere. Maybe it's the Peter Pan philosophy?

    I don't see a reason to cut him. Marquis does need to play more, but I do think he replaces Kirk at PG more than he replaces Nate. Nate has an important role for the team, though you can't rely on him to be the starter.

    Well, he did sign that contract, so they must have talked about that possibility, and he must have been cool with it, for whatever reason.

    Go Bulls!
     
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    I would just like to add that this quote makes me never want to go visit Rumor Central.
     
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    Nate Robinson can score. Always could. The fact that he's 5-9 and has made a fine living in the NBA is a testament to his drive and determination. Can't help but admire him.

    I don't love his game, but at a minimum salary, he's one of the biggest bargains in all of sports. When Rose returns, assuming Hinrich's healthy, Robinson's minutes will be significantly reduced. Still, I agree that it'd be nuts to cut him.
     
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    I agree! IMO we need to cut Hinrich! Keep Robinson. But that wont happen. Probably couldn't happen.
     
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    Nate is not a replacement for Hinrich. Teague might be, in time.
     
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    Nate's per 36 APG is 6.1.

    Kirk hasn't topped that since the 2007-08 season.

    The past 2 seasons, Nate's per 36 was 7.0 and 7.2. Better than Kirk's best seasons.

    But as NoVoodoo points out, for some reason he doesn't get the love he deserves.
     
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    I've always thought Teague replaces Hinrich moreso than Nate. Both good defenders, and Teague is surprisingly good at running the team when I've seen him play.

    I don't see Nate being buried at the end of the bench when Derrick gets back either.

    Is Derrick going to go heads first into playing huge minutes? How good will his offense be? It could be quite bad the first month or so until he gets his legs underneath him again.

    If I recall correctly, one of the biggest holes this team has had the last two years is a guy who can score in bulk and create his own shot. Who else can do that besides Nate?
     
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    Uh, nvm.
     
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    Just noticing Nate is one of 3 guys on the team with a PER over 15.

    I think he's a bargain. If someone is going to be cut, it should be radman, since he actually doesn't contribute anything except maybe in practice...
     
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    Agreed that he is a bargain. I'll wait and see what the Bulls are up to.

    The positive in this story is that Teague is farther along than we dared hope at the beginning of the year.

    And investment wise, that's the guy that matters most.
     
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    Apparently, Robinson's guarantee date was 1/1 rather than 1/10 (the latest the league allows). In any case, we need to direct our vitriol elsewhere, 'cause Robinson's guaranteed.

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